Jefferson and Grimes...
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Although I think grimes is better than Cleveland what message would that have sent to the team it’s different with Jefferson because he’s a veteran he’s been around the college game longer
The message it would send to the team is the best player is playing. Cleveland can’t catch worth a damn he doesn’t deserve to have many if any targets. Hope Jefferson comes back so he and Grimes can be our outside receivers next year.
These two, plus all Schuellwr did yesterday and Krull, etc. will never show up in the recruiting rankings but Mullen improved this roster significantly in a short time
2018 Class Late Additions: (not included in the 2018 recruit class rankings) 
What would be the undated ranking if these (7) were included in the #14 class?
DE/DT Adam Shuler II 6-4 270 rsJr ****- Longwood, FL (WVa Grad-xfer)
WVa - 24 Gms - 67 Tkls, 9 TFL, 4 Sacks, 1 FR
WR Van Jefferson 6-2 195 rsJr **** - EE Fr All SEC (Ms xfer)
~ 8-2-18 Cleared by NCAA to play in 2018
TE/DE Lucas Krull 6-7 255 rsSo **** - Shawnee, Kan - JuCo
2 year Juco Grad that still has 3 years of eligibility to play.
WR Trevon Grimes 6-4 202 So ***** - EE (tOSU xfer)
~ 8-2-18 Cleared by NCAA to play in 2018
#1 LS Marco Ortiz 6-5 230 *****- A Rubio 5 Star - P-WO
ILB Umstead Sanders 6-2 240 Jr *** - Juco xfer - P-WO
Ath/WR Jaylin Jackson 5-8 171 ** - P-WO
(30-5 as a starting QB-dt, CB, KR with ship offers)
What would be the undated ranking if these (7) were included in the #14 class?
DE/DT Adam Shuler II 6-4 270 rsJr ****- Longwood, FL (WVa Grad-xfer)
WVa - 24 Gms - 67 Tkls, 9 TFL, 4 Sacks, 1 FR
WR Van Jefferson 6-2 195 rsJr **** - EE Fr All SEC (Ms xfer)
~ 8-2-18 Cleared by NCAA to play in 2018
TE/DE Lucas Krull 6-7 255 rsSo **** - Shawnee, Kan - JuCo
2 year Juco Grad that still has 3 years of eligibility to play.
WR Trevon Grimes 6-4 202 So ***** - EE (tOSU xfer)
~ 8-2-18 Cleared by NCAA to play in 2018
#1 LS Marco Ortiz 6-5 230 *****- A Rubio 5 Star - P-WO
ILB Umstead Sanders 6-2 240 Jr *** - Juco xfer - P-WO
Ath/WR Jaylin Jackson 5-8 171 ** - P-WO
(30-5 as a starting QB-dt, CB, KR with ship offers)
Cleveland has been a disappointment this year...guy can get open and he's physical but drops the ball to much. Really would like to see him as a factor in this offense.
2018 Season
Receptions
31 Jefferson - 439 yds, 6 TD's
26 Hammond - 308 yds, 4 TD's
25 Grimes - 366 yds, 2 TD's
24 Toney - 260 yds, 1 TD
18 Cleveland - 212 yds, 3 TD's
14 Swain - 265 yds, 5 TD's
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10 Scarlett - 84 yds, 0 TD's
9 Perine - 145 yds, 0 TD's
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8 Stephens - 106 yds, 3 TD's
8 Lewis - 100 yds, 0 TD's
Jefferson has 31 catches to 6 TD's
Swain has 14 catches to 5 TD's
Hammond has 26 catches for 306 yds, but 4 TD's (more TD's)
Grimes has 25 catches for 366 yds, to 2 TD's (more yds/rec)
Scarlett has 10 catches for 6.4 yds/rec
Perine has 9 catches for 16.1 yds/rec (way more yds/rec)
Stephens and Lewis have the same # of catches and about the same yds.
While Stephens has 3 TD's to 0 for Lewis, but Lewis gets most of the playing time.
~ Who are getting the playing minutes from the coaches?
~ Who runs the routes and get's open?
~ Who does the QB look to, open or not?
~ Who makes the difficult catches vs the wide open easy catches?
~ Who has the best Targets to Drops Ratio???
>> Many factors go into getting the above stats...
I know that a better/accurate passing QB will improve everybody's receiving stats.
Just like a better OL will greatly improve the RB's stats.
EDIT:
Mildly surprised by these stats from PFF.
Jefferson 31 catches on 59 targets with ?? drops (for a 1.1 to 1 ratio)
Swain 14 catches on 22 targets with zero drops (for a 1.75 to 1 ratio)
Grimes 25 catches on 38 targets, with one drop (for a 1.9 to 1 ratio)
Toney 24 catches on 33 targets with 1 drop, (for a 2.7 to 1 ratio)
Receptions
31 Jefferson - 439 yds, 6 TD's
26 Hammond - 308 yds, 4 TD's
25 Grimes - 366 yds, 2 TD's
24 Toney - 260 yds, 1 TD
18 Cleveland - 212 yds, 3 TD's
14 Swain - 265 yds, 5 TD's
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10 Scarlett - 84 yds, 0 TD's
9 Perine - 145 yds, 0 TD's
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8 Stephens - 106 yds, 3 TD's
8 Lewis - 100 yds, 0 TD's
Jefferson has 31 catches to 6 TD's
Swain has 14 catches to 5 TD's
Hammond has 26 catches for 306 yds, but 4 TD's (more TD's)
Grimes has 25 catches for 366 yds, to 2 TD's (more yds/rec)
Scarlett has 10 catches for 6.4 yds/rec
Perine has 9 catches for 16.1 yds/rec (way more yds/rec)
Stephens and Lewis have the same # of catches and about the same yds.
While Stephens has 3 TD's to 0 for Lewis, but Lewis gets most of the playing time.
~ Who are getting the playing minutes from the coaches?
~ Who runs the routes and get's open?
~ Who does the QB look to, open or not?
~ Who makes the difficult catches vs the wide open easy catches?
~ Who has the best Targets to Drops Ratio???
>> Many factors go into getting the above stats...
I know that a better/accurate passing QB will improve everybody's receiving stats.
Just like a better OL will greatly improve the RB's stats.
EDIT:
Mildly surprised by these stats from PFF.
Jefferson 31 catches on 59 targets with ?? drops (for a 1.1 to 1 ratio)
Swain 14 catches on 22 targets with zero drops (for a 1.75 to 1 ratio)
Grimes 25 catches on 38 targets, with one drop (for a 1.9 to 1 ratio)
Toney 24 catches on 33 targets with 1 drop, (for a 2.7 to 1 ratio)
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