its les F'in Miles!!!!!##
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Its always been legal in ALL of football, high school, college and NFL. Now, if he raised he knee and then come back down then the play is dead where his knee touched for a second time.
In theory, if he was down because his knee was down, you couldn't have the kick, because the play would be dead when he got the ball.
I've always thought the rule should be modified. He can't do anything but hold for a kick with his knee down. Anything else like a handoff or pass he has to be off his knees first.
I mean they make the exception for holding. Not for throwing passes. So either make him stand up to throw or make it illegal to have your knee down to hold for kicks
I mean they make the exception for holding. Not for throwing passes. So either make him stand up to throw or make it illegal to have your knee down to hold for kicks
It is really disappointing that our coaching staff did not see that play coming given his propensity to do that against us. It sucks to get out coached and lose on a play like that, but Mac will probably learn from it.
How did we lose on that play? They most likely would have made that short FG and we had Hardin as our kicker. 7 or 3 we would have lost.
Because 'if we had seen that coming', then we stop the fake. There is no 3 pt FG. Also, even if LSU had tried and made the FG, that would change how the end of the game is played.
Agreed. Had Florida stopped LSU's Fake-FG, the game would still be tied 28-28 and it would be anyone's ball game or go to Overtime and take your chances there!
It sucks because you knew they were going to run a fake.. they hadn't done any type of "major" trickery all game
Hard to say what would have happened, but there were more than 10 minutes left in the game when LSU scored last. Had they not scored, they too would have run their offense differently to score instead of killing clock. I think their offense moved the ball easier than Florida did and demonstrated more control. UF was in the "gotta score" mode the entire last 10 minutes and didn't get close. But...LOTS can happen as a game winds down...Michigan State just showed that...and I'm sure the fans here remember Louisianna Lafayette in the Swamp.
Wrong on the last part!
Had Florida either stopped LSU or not at that point in the 4th quarter, Florida would still get the ball back next with 10 minutes to play. The Gators had a good five-minute drive up to LSU's 20-25y line. Unfortunately, Treon Harris got sacked/got called for intentional grounding on the next play and it was soon 4-22 from about the LSU's 35y line. After that big Demarcus Robinson pass play to the LSU 20-25y line, Florida should have tried going back to the run to keep LSU's defense off balance. In UF's comeback, Florida was becoming too one-dimensional during their attack. It could have been a good time to mix it up with either a run or a screen pass. Despite the sack error, Callaway nearly caught the tying TD pass in the endzone before LSU's two DB's stripped him of the ball. Most college teams would not have stopped that pass play.
Prior to LSU's Fake FG attempt, Florida also forced three consecutive three-and outs in the 3rd quarter to get back in the game (down 14-28) and tie it up (28-28). After it was tied late in the 3rd quarter, LSU did respond and go on a long drive to Florida's 13 yard behind Fournette's running. However, the Florida defense again stiffened and finally stopped LSU & a tired Fournette for that FG-attempt.
Late in the 4th quarter (under five minutes to play), Florida's defense also stopped LSU's base-offense twice more when it had to get the ball back with about two minutes left. With LSU's strong running game behind Leonard Fournette; especially in that 2nd quarter, it was also difficult for Florida to simultaneously stop their explosive passing game -ie., the flea flicker was effective as well as the deep passes to their receivers. After halftime, the coaches instructed their defensive backs to stick to their receiver instead of peaking in the backfield to try to help out with the tackling. In McElwain's words, "everyone just do their job instead of also trying to do someone else's".
After the second half adjustments, Florida forced LSU to punt five times out of six possessions. The Florida defense started having a little better handle on LSU's offense in the second half. LSU played out of their minds in that 2nd quarter while scoring 28 points. You could say that Florida was a little shell shocked playing on the road in Death Valley. But Florida fought back and showed incredible resolve as a whole team throughout that game.
If Florida has a rematch against LSU in the SEC championship game, it can be anyone's ball game. Florida still has a shot for the play-offs if things fall in place. As usual, Florida's road is tougher than most!
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