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Interesting article on Kyle Trask

Every time a college coach visited Manvel, Martin told them not to view Trask as a back-up. In any other situation, Martin added, Trask would be one of the most recruited kids in the country.
Florida offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Doug Nussmeier first saw Trask in the spring.
Martin made Trask the first-team quarterback that day and had him, among other drills, throwing 22-yard comeback routes from the opposite hashmark. Trask dominated the drill and caught Nussmeier's eye.
"Coach Nussmeier said to me, 'You're right Kirk. That kid is incredible. I have been all over the country and have not seen a five-star better than him.'"



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With all this big STAR talk,wouldn't be funny if he's are bell cow. Kinda like how rex Grossman came out of .nowhere.
 
Still not buying it. Manvel is one of the better HS teams in the country and have a ton of D-1 guys being recruited. Which means plenty of colleges from all over the country have gone to their practices and seen Trask. And his second best offer is still Texas Baptiste. Either our coaches have the greatest eye for talent in the country and are seeing what nobody else is seeing or maybe they're trying to be the smartest guys in the room. None of the QB's Nuss recruited at Washington or at Bama panned out, so I'll go with the latter.
 
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Still not buying it. Manvel is one of the better HS teams in the country and have a ton of D-1 guys being recruited. Which means plenty of colleges from all over the country have gone to their practices and seen Trask. And his second best offer is still Texas Baptiste. Either our coaches have the greatest eye for talent in the country and are seeing what nobody else is seeing or maybe they're trying to be the smartest guys in the room. None of the QB's Nuss recruited at Washington or at Bama panned out, so I'll go with the latter.

Understand your skepticism. However, watch his highlights and let us know what he can't do at QB:
 
Understand your skepticism. However, watch his highlights and let us know what he can't do at QB:

Right, but tools are just that...tools. We haven't had a QB with better tools than Driskel, how did that work out? Coaches always fall in love with QB's watching them throw in shorts. The only time Trask gets in the game is when its out of hand, so most of his film is against backup players. They have no clue how he reads defenses, handles pressure, etc. By all means if they think he can develop into something then let him walk on, it's not like he has any other scholarship offers better than UF, he has 3 offers in total. But you don't hand out scholarships to a players like that much less take their commitment early. If people weren't on high about the new staff, this take would be much more scrutinized than it is. How is this guy any different from a Max Starver or Morningweh? Those guys at least started and put up decent numbers. If it was Muschamp doing this you guys would be melting down, and rightfully so.
 
Our coaches have never seen this guy lead an offense in a game in doubt. They've never seen him in a live game against 1st string players. Have never seen him come from behind in a game, lead a two-minute drill, make checks, nothing. All we know is he can supposedly throw 22 yard comeback routes from the opposite hash (which seems so far fetched, that's a 60+ yard throw). How can no one see that this is a needless risk? It's not even anything against Trask. We're trying to be the smartest guys in the room for no reason at all. You mean to tell me all those schools who go by Manvel to scout players haven't been impressed enough to offer? Not even those low level schools dying for any talent at QB they can find? That just isn't believable.
 
Do like Trask's throwing motion though. Seems more compact and quicker than Frank's. Can't really tell much else.
 
Right, but tools are just that...tools. We haven't had a QB with better tools than Driskel, how did that work out? Coaches always fall in love with QB's watching them throw in shorts. The only time Trask gets in the game is when its out of hand, so most of his film is against backup players. They have no clue how he reads defenses, handles pressure, etc. By all means if they think he can develop into something then let him walk on, it's not like he has any other scholarship offers better than UF, he has 3 offers in total. But you don't hand out scholarships to a players like that much less take their commitment early. If people weren't on high about the new staff, this take would be much more scrutinized than it is. How is this guy any different from a Max Starver or Morningweh? Those guys at least started and put up decent numbers. If it was Muschamp doing this you guys would be melting down, and rightfully so.
Morningwegh? He had a noodle arm and an awful throwing motion. He was also a Brent Pease special favor.
 
Rex was Parade AA and Indiana Mr. Football. Not exactly out of nowhere.
Indeed, plus he was a top 100 player across all the recruitniks lists.

I guess the "out of nowhere" is how he appeared on Spurrier radar by sending in a tape and taking an unexpected visit on his own dime. Can't recall that far back but I don't think many schools in this region knew much about him or recruited him. But he was a known commodity with D1 P5 offers.
 

It's 45 from hashmark to hashmark. Then you'd have to add him being 20 yards downfield. So that's a 60 yard throw on a rope and with accuracy. Few NFL QB's can make that throw. I find it hard to believe this guy can and can't get on the field for his team.
 
No, it is 40' (=13.3 yards) from hash to hash. Remember, a football field is only 53.3 yards wide.

Thanks for the correction. Would still be a 60 yard throw in total though. I find it hard to believe regardless.
 
No, it would be 45 yards throw. I did the math.

How do you figure?

Actually never mind. Wasn't taking into account the angle up the field. Draw a triangle from hash to hash then 20 yards downfield it's about 45. Basically use hypotenuse formula. Still a very difficult throw. And the article claims he hit those repeatedly? I'd have to see that.
 
How do you figure?

Actually never mind. Wasn't taking into account the angle up the field. Draw a triangle from hash to hash then 20 yards downfield it's about 45. Basically use hypotenuse formula. Still a very difficult throw. And the article claims he hit those repeatedly? I'd have to see that.
They said he was doing it when he came to camp for Friday Night Lights as well. Who knows?
 
With all this big STAR talk,wouldn't be funny if he's are bell cow. Kinda like how rex Grossman came out of .nowhere.
This can happen, there is some other reason, school system, parents job, elderly grand parents, something that kept him from going to another school and being "the starter"
 
Our coaches have never seen this guy lead an offense in a game in doubt. They've never seen him in a live game against 1st string players. Have never seen him come from behind in a game, lead a two-minute drill, make checks, nothing. All we know is he can supposedly throw 22 yard comeback routes from the opposite hash (which seems so far fetched, that's a 60+ yard throw). How can no one see that this is a needless risk? It's not even anything against Trask. We're trying to be the smartest guys in the room for no reason at all. You mean to tell me all those schools who go by Manvel to scout players haven't been impressed enough to offer? Not even those low level schools dying for any talent at QB they can find? That just isn't believable.
Risk<Reward factor is through the roof with this kid though, so if your going it chance it on one or two guys, why not this one when it is an area of huge need?
 
Ooz:

Using your philosophy, which may prove true, Jake Allen should never have been offered. He was offered and accepted before he started one game at any HS (based upon my knowledge and contacts).
 
They said he was doing it when he came to camp for Friday Night Lights as well. Who knows?

If that's true, he already has one of the strongest arms in CFB. It would be funny if he turned out the best of all the QB's. History is against it but that's why they strap up.
 
After reading the article, I like him even more, kid is coming to compete and isn't promised anything but a chance and he seems like he's willing to be a backup if he didn't win the job outright, excellent guy to have in my opinion.
 
Risk<Reward factor is through the roof with this kid though, so if your going it chance it on one or two guys, why not this one when it is an area of huge need?

Don't have an issue taking him. I just feel as if thats a move you make when you strike out on all your top options or you have an extra scholarship come signing day. Then you basically say to hell with it and give the free scholarship to a high upside guy. He probably isn't scaring any top prospects away from a talent standpoint but he probably is keeping away more top guys from a numbers standpoint. Not many QB's are gonna want to commit to a class with two other QB's already.
 
After reading the article, I like him even more, kid is coming to compete and isn't promised anything but a chance and he seems like he's willing to be a backup if he didn't win the job outright, excellent guy to have in my opinion.

Well to be fair it's not like he has many options. Where else is he gonna go? It's like being given a lifeboat and turning it down to wait on the next one that comes along.
 
This can happen, there is some other reason, school system, parents job, elderly grand parents, something that kept him from going to another school and being "the starter"

I read an article, (might have been on 247 or MaxPreps, on why Kyle stayed at Manvel instead of going elsewhere to be a stater.

Kyle said that they talked about it, but he is a 'team player' and he wanted to show 'team loyalty' and stay with his guys. (my kind of Gator!)

The reason he's not the starter is that Manvel runs a Spread and he is a QB-PP. The Spread QB will be going to TCU to run their Spread. He's in the 5-9 177 range and fast if I remember correctly, and we wouldn't even recruit a QB like him (to play QB anyway).

Trask's QB numbers are OUTSTANDING for a backup QB.
The one that stands out to me is his 15 TD's to ZERO Ints, with a double digit yards per completion average. :eek:

While he has good mobility and can run effectively on a scramble or the occasional QB draw, he's not what you'd call a 'running QB' by any stretch.

He and Franks might actually end up being 1a and 1b, instead of starter and backup. I actually wouldn't care which was the starter either. :cool:
 
Indeed, plus he was a top 100 player across all the recruitniks lists.

I guess the "out of nowhere" is how he appeared on Spurrier radar by sending in a tape and taking an unexpected visit on his own dime. Can't recall that far back but I don't think many schools in this region knew much about him or recruited him. But he was a known commodity with D1 P5 offers.

Rex was an afterthought because everyone assumed Brock Berlin was the QB of the future in that class. If Trask were to beat out Franks as the starter then they would have commonality in that regard.
 
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