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If A Federal Law Legalizing All Types Of Abortion Before 15 Week Gestation Becomes Law

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Will you accept and respect the legality of this law as the law of the land that supersedes states laws?
 
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Will you accept and respect the legality of this law as the law of the land that supersedes states laws?

If you mean they uphold the 15 week restriction I wouldn't respect the ruling in a legal sense but I wouldn't put it past Roberts to spin some nonsense just like he did with that Obamacare BS decision to try and get get 5 justices on board to say 15 weeks is alright. I would like to see how he pulls that one off though. My guess is it would be Kavanaugh that he would get on board if it happened. I think he is more likely than Barrett to agree to something crazy like that. A big issue would be getting the 3 lefties on board though as it would have to overrule Casey I think even if they did some huge spin job to say it doesn't overrule the basics of Roe v Wade. The lefties may say no way in hell are we doing that and Roberts will be out of luck.

If you mean a law passed by congress I wouldn't respect it because its not their choice imo and its a state's choice legally. The supreme court should overturn any congressional law on abortion like that.
 
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Will you accept and respect the legality of this law as the law of the land that supersedes states laws?
That’s pretty thorny. In general, matters of health are left to the States’ police power. The power of the federal government is (at least in theory) limited to written grants found in the Constitution.

Broadly, where the federal government has power over such matters it is pursuant to spending or commerce. In the Obamacare decision, Roberts went out of his way to put the authority in the taxing power so that he could avoid putting it in commerce. So commerce probably doesn’t have the votes on this court.

Spending would require the Government to implement new spending that has some relationship to abortion. Saying that previously agreed to spending contains new conditions is suspect at best.

In short, you can’t just cite Supremacy Clause and call it a day.
 
Will you accept and respect the legality of this law as the law of the land that supersedes states laws?
NO -- Are you really this stupid, or is it just another lying doc-tor's act to continue to allow some doc-tors to make money on infanticide. BTW, do they vaccinate them first? Make them wear a mask or a ventilator while their baby is being murdered? jus-curious

Hierarchy of Authority:

1. The Sovereign People
2. The 50 states
A distant 3rd. The Federal Govt. under the strict itemized restrictions granted to it in the Sovereign People's Constitution.
 
That’s pretty thorny. In general, matters of health are left to the States’ police power. The power of the federal government is (at least in theory) limited to written grants found in the Constitution.

Broadly, where the federal government has power over such matters it is pursuant to spending or commerce. In the Obamacare decision, Roberts went out of his way to put the authority in the taxing power so that he could avoid putting it in commerce. So commerce probably doesn’t have the votes on this court.

Spending would require the Government to implement new spending that has some relationship to abortion. Saying that previously agreed to spending contains new conditions is suspect at best.

In short, you can’t just cite Supremacy Clause and call it a day.
John Robert's twisted logic into a pretzel to uphold Obamacare. Scalia and Kennedy were pissed. The power to tax could be used to force people to do anything.
 
John Robert's twisted logic into a pretzel to uphold Obamacare. Scalia and Kennedy were pissed. The power to tax could be used to force people to do anything.
But the power to tax is itself limited by the original clause and the income tax. The Roberts tax was not constitutional under either. The court has changed since then.
 
That’s pretty thorny. In general, matters of health are left to the States’ police power. The power of the federal government is (at least in theory) limited to written grants found in the Constitution.

Broadly, where the federal government has power over such matters it is pursuant to spending or commerce. In the Obamacare decision, Roberts went out of his way to put the authority in the taxing power so that he could avoid putting it in commerce. So commerce probably doesn’t have the votes on this court.

Spending would require the Government to implement new spending that has some relationship to abortion. Saying that previously agreed to spending contains new conditions is suspect at best.

In short, you can’t just cite Supremacy Clause and call it a day.
AND the court has changed since zer0care. I think this court would like to revisit the abused commerce clause rulings. My prediction is that precedent would take another hit and national gubmint would be put back into a smaller box.

The trifecta would be commerce restricted to explicit interstate commerce setting things back pre-FDR, Roe repealed and then person-hood declared for the preborn.

I would hand out candy and dance a jig.

Obergefell could fall and then zer0care. Man that would be glorious indeed.

Originalist!!!!!!!!!!
 
John Robert's twisted logic into a pretzel to uphold Obamacare. Scalia and Kennedy were pissed. The power to tax could be used to force people to do anything.
It is widely believed that the U.S. Supreme Court in 1895 declared income taxation in itself unconstitutional, making the Amendment necessary if the feds were to grab part of our paychecks.

In the United States, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to "lay and collect taxes on U.S. Corporations, duties, profits on stocks and bonds, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. So the Feds can tax income, but the sovereign citizen's personal WAGES are not defined as Income.

There is NO LAW in the Federal Registry giving them the power to tax a citizen's personal wages.
If you believe that's incorrect, then give me the Federal Registry # for that Law..... (crickets)

The last time the Congress and their IRS had that power was during WWII, the Victory War Tax, which was rescinded by the Congress in 1947 after the end of WWII.

The government wanted to raise money for the war so they enacted the Victory Tax of 1942. This was to be a temporary two year tax supposedly authorized by Article 1 Section 8 clause 12 of the Constitution which says that Congress has the power:
"To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer Term than two years."
 
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It is widely believed that the U.S. Supreme Court in 1895 declared income taxation in itself unconstitutional, making the Amendment necessary if the feds were to grab part of our paychecks.

In the United States, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to "lay and collect taxes on U.S. Corporations, duties, profits on stocks and bonds, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. So the Feds can tax income, but the sovereign citizen's personal WAGES are not defined as Income.

There is NO LAW in the Federal Registry giving them the power to tax a citizen's personal wages.
If you believe that's incorrect, then give me the Federal Registry # for that Law..... (crickets)

The last time the Congress and their IRS had that power was during WWII, the Victory War Tax, which was rescinded by the Congress in 1947 after the end of WWII.

The government wanted to raise money for the war so they enacted the Victory Tax of 1942. This was to be a temporary two year tax supposedly authorized by Article 1 Section 8 clause 12 of the Constitution which says that Congress has the power:
"To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer Term than two years."


Isn't the 16th amendment what they used to override previous supreme court decisions to say a federal income tax is legal now and they then passed the revenue act of 1913 shortly after the 16th amendment was passed.
 
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What all of the trashing of the Sovereign People's Constitution needs at this point, is for the Sovereign People to rise up and reassert their own Sovereignty over the neo-Royalty that has almost gotten away with stealing the God given unalienable rights and freedoms that were canonized by Sovereign People through the Declaration of Independence from any assumed Royalty, and the Sovereign Peoples Constitution that they created to install a very LIMITED federal government.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
 
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That’s pretty thorny. In general, matters of health are left to the States’ police power. The power of the federal government is (at least in theory) limited to written grants found in the Constitution.

Broadly, where the federal government has power over such matters it is pursuant to spending or commerce. In the Obamacare decision, Roberts went out of his way to put the authority in the taxing power so that he could avoid putting it in commerce. So commerce probably doesn’t have the votes on this court.

Spending would require the Government to implement new spending that has some relationship to abortion. Saying that previously agreed to spending contains new conditions is suspect at best.

In short, you can’t just cite Supremacy Clause and call it a day.
Yeah but the federal government is now the largest healthcare insure and cast a great deal of control over our healthcare system on the national level already. So it’s not beyond reason to expect them to pass a law like this at some point and of course there’s a specific amendment giving the federal government and federal laws power over state laws, And we follow bloody Civil War to establish that.
 
Yeah but the federal government is now the largest healthcare insure and cast a great deal of control over our healthcare system on the national level already. So it’s not beyond reason to expect them to pass a law like this at some point and of course there’s a specific amendment giving the federal government and federal laws power over state laws, And we follow bloody Civil War to establish that.

What amendment is that in a case like this? The states wouldn't be treating anyone differently in their state with their abortion restrictions unless they wrote some crazy law up. Don't care what nonsense they spoke about in the Roe v Wade case the 14th amendment shouldn't legally apply to abortion restrictions that are the same for everyone in a state.
 
The radical Left has unleashed a virulent attack on life. It's horrific and disgusting.

Schumer and Pelosi have launched a 3-pronged attack on life at the federal level, and Biden says everyone should be able to
"abort a child." At the same time, a state legislative committee has just passed a bill (sponsored by Planned >infanticide< Parenthood) that could legalize infanticide up to 28 days AFTER birth. It's absolute evil.


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The radical Left has unleashed a virulent attack on life. It's horrific and disgusting.
Schumer and Pelosi have launched a 3-pronged attack on life at the federal level, and Biden says everyone should be able to "abort a child." At the same time, a state legislative committee has just passed a bill (sponsored by Planned Parenthood) that could legalize infanticide up to 28 days AFTER birth. It's absolute evil.
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We know the abortion lobby worships at the altar of abortion. Now they are trying to use the leaked draft Supreme Court opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade to pressure a Justice to change their vote, break the filibuster in the Senate, and force a vote to make Roe PERMANENT, even if the Supreme Court does officially overturn Roe. (returning it to the states as it should have been all along)

We're battling this horrific attack on unborn babies in the halls of Congress, at the Supreme Court, and through legislative and legal efforts in 28 states. We MUST protect this opinion to overturn Roe and battle in every state to save lives.
In California, the legislative committee's own legal analysis already confirmed what we warned about: The bill's language could lead to an "undesirable conclusion . . . including the death of a newborn for any reason during the 'perinatal' period after birth." That's infanticide.
Live-birth abortion laws and making Roe permanent don't go far enough for Planned Parenthood, which we know wants to be able to profit from the sale of aborted babies' body parts – and these live-birth abortions make that possible. We JUST submitted new legal analysis to the CA legislators to defeat this infanticide law, but now we need YOU.
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And if they can force vaccines, how long before they decide that they can FORCE abortions on those that don't want to have one???
 
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