slaughter of millions of the unborn. Psaki's spin on that bs answer would be priceless. After all, we do know that Biden, along with Pelosi are such "gooood" catholics.
I hope the Pope asks Biden, Why are you ok with the
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This Pope will say, "Good job Joe. People should probably call me Brandon too. Don't let that bother you. Remember, I'm on your side."
This is probably the most liberal Pope we have ever seen.
Nope, wasn't deemed inmportant enough to have a discussion.
Biden: Abortion Didn't Come Up in Meeting With Pope
U.S. President Joe Biden, who's at the center of fierce debate in the U.S. Church because of his support for abortion, said Friday the issue didn't come up in his meeting with Pope Francis, but said the pontiff told him he should keep receiving communion.
this Pope is a avowed Marxist… he isn’t going to say anything to Brandon.
Joe Biden took an oath to follow the constitution. Whether he likes it or not, abortion was declared the right of the mother during the first trimester.
Joe may believe all atheists, Muslims an even Protestestants are sentenced to eternal damnation, but it is not his position to say so as leader of our country. His job is not to invoke his faith on the faithless.
Do I wish he would come out strongly against abortion while defending the mothers right to choose? Yes I do. But that is his choice.and between him and his Maker.
what’s this?
other Popes have embraced “ Marx” Marxism.
Marx, who was made a cardinal by Benedict XVI, also told the story that St. John Paul II used to jokingly call him “nostro marxista” [our Marxist].
Wouldn't surprise me if Pope Frances is a pedo like Michael Jackson.
The fact that abortion was not on the discussion list speaks volumes. This is how ostriches conduct meetings isn't it?Nope, wasn't deemed inmportant enough to have a discussion.
Biden: Abortion Didn't Come Up in Meeting With Pope
U.S. President Joe Biden, who's at the center of fierce debate in the U.S. Church because of his support for abortion, said Friday the issue didn't come up in his meeting with Pope Francis, but said the pontiff told him he should keep receiving communion.www.newsmax.com
Nope. He does care about the poor, like Jesus and unlike you heathens, but is not interested in economic reforms.
Like this:
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Acts of FaithPope Francis is not a Marxist, but make no mistake: He will challenge the world’s leading capitalist power
Pope Francis gestures to journalists during a news conference on July 13, 2015, onboard a plane on his way back to Rome from Paraguay, the final stop of his South America tour. (AFP photo / Vincenzo Pintovincenzo Pinto/AFP/Getty Images)
July 14, 2015
This analysis is by Kevin Clarke, a senior editor and chief correspondent at America magazine.
To paraphrase a joke that circulates in Jesuit circles: Pope Francis is the best at humility. He proved it again on his plane ride home from South America when he frankly acknowledged that “it was an error of mine” not to have said more about the struggles of the world’s middle class. A sharply worded criticism of unfettered capitalism in Bolivia had been only his most recent denunciation of a throwaway economy and a demand for greater systemic attention to the continuing plight of the world’s poor.
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During one of the off-the-papal-cuff news conferences that have become a hallmark of his pontificate, Pope Francis explained to reporters because the poor are at the “heart of the Gospel” they enjoy a preferential option for his attention.
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But he also thanked a reporter for reminding him of his duty as well to advocate on behalf of the global middle class, and he assured that he would turn his attention to their concerns after proper Jesuitical due diligence of study and reflection.While most may think a fellow like Francis could fall back on the purported–and largely misunderstood–infallibility of his office, this pontiff seems completely at ease with the fully human capacity to make a mistake and to accept corrections—even from as unlikely a source as a plane-load of reporters.
It was hardly his most significant apology that week, however. In the same speech in Bolivia, in fact, he followed up on a previous apology from Pope John Paul II to more humbly express regret for church transgressions against the native people of the new world.
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[How Pope Francis became such a force in foreign policy]His remarks in Latin America preview what are likely to be the major concerns of his unprecedented address before Congress in September. Those whose hearts beat a little faster during bedtime stories of 19th century laissez faire capitalism should buckle up when Francis comes to Washington. “An unfettered pursuit of money rules,” he said in Bolivia, leading to a benighted planet, poisoned with the “dung of the devil.” Not exactly subtle. But sometimes Pope Francis has to play prophet and say the hard things that might awaken first world consciences.
This Latin American pope has had a front-seat view of the real world results of North America’s deification, as he puts it, of the free market, a ideological idolatry which reads mostly benignly in economic textbooks but which can produce ugly outcomes outside the classroom — ecological degradation, wage slavery, vast communal dislocation and commodity-market driven hunger.
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Pope Francis, in keeping with a long history of Catholic social tradition, thinks there is a better way to order the world economy — one his immediate predecessors have more softly promoted. But his criticism of the current world order is not likely to go over well in a nation that remains smugly convinced of its exceptionalism and a claim of historical infallibility that would make any pontiff blush.There will no doubt be ugly accusations thrown at Pope Francis when he presses his concern for creation, the global poor and soon apparently the world’s middle class in the United States. Some have already attempted to dismiss his critique of capitalist excess as “socialism,” tapping into a paranoid thread in the North American psyche and intending to shut down thoughtful deliberation of the pope’s demanding message.
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But the pope is not a Marxist; he is not any sort of political revolutionary. He is, as he has said, foremost a sinner and a Christian. He has already acknowledged that the Catholic magisterium will itself not presume to prescribe specific socio-economic reforms toward the more just future he waits and hopes for. That will be work left up to the rest of us.Pope Francis is not interested in changing political or economic systems, but in changing hearts, in acts of personal conversion that can lead to social transformation. He is not calling just for better mitigation of the suffering of the poor or reforms of global markets, but change which is redemptive for everyone.
His is a revolution of conscience that “saves” the tiny percentage of the world’s rich from the spiritual morass of materialism as much as it rescues billions around the world from the blunt deprivations of poverty.
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Well I guess it's okay since Catholic Communion IS NOT the Body of Christ and this Pope is evil and not a Pope most conservative Catholics agree with. Ask my sister!
I could GAS what your sister thinks. The Holy See is the head of The One True Church. Shes free to leave like you did and join the other heathens.
She's a very conservative, very loyal (unlike you) Catholic to the Church and is unwavering in her faith. She doesn't bow to justification of lifestyles or compromises to her faith for the sake of convenience (again unlike you). You SHOULD know that a reception of Holy Communion in the state of mortal sin is a mortal sin that is without the flow of grace. She is one who states emphatically that this Pope is a BAD Pope. And your continued pompous thoughts about the "one true church" is so archaic. You seem to think only Catholics go to heaven. Bro, you've got problems that seems to continue to this day. A pompous ass you are.
I can’t answer for God, like you try to do, but I know than anyone who idolizes a twice divorced, serial adulterer who has actually paid for an abortion can’t be taken seriously. We all know that this thread came about because you Protestants hate this Pope because he doesn’t bow to the God of capitalism, and instead follows God’s words about the “least of these.”
But can Protestants go to heaven? Sorry, that’s not my call. But I do know that the sola fide nonsense where any yahoo can preach his own biblical interpretation isn’t the way to go.
The Protestant Achilles' Heel
When defending sola scriptura, Protestant's will appeal to their sole authority—Scripture. This is a textbook example of the logical fallacy of circular reasoning.
Leaving Catholicism for Feelings-Based Protestantism
A road that ultimately ends in atheism
www.churchmilitant.com
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Why did Jesus die on the Cross? Was it so everyone can become Catholic? Is that where salvation lies? Answer me this: Does Salvation come from the Catholic Church or the Cross of Jesus Christ? Once again, you fail. You always fail. You go around with Catholic blinders and can't see the stupidity of your thoughts. You might go to that simple scripture verse that used to shown at the end zones: John 3:16.I can’t answer for God, like you try to do, but I know than anyone who idolizes a twice divorced, serial adulterer who has actually paid for an abortion can’t be taken seriously. We all know that this thread came about because you Protestants hate this Pope because he doesn’t bow to the God of capitalism, and instead follows God’s words about the “least of these.”
But can Protestants go to heaven? Sorry, that’s not my call. But I do know that the sola fide nonsense where any yahoo can preach his own biblical interpretation isn’t the way to go.
The Protestant Achilles' Heel
When defending sola scriptura, Protestant's will appeal to their sole authority—Scripture. This is a textbook example of the logical fallacy of circular reasoning.www.catholic.com
Leaving Catholicism for Feelings-Based Protestantism
A road that ultimately ends in atheismwww.churchmilitant.com
Scripture alone, or sola scripture, is a Protestant fallacy. It’s in the link I posted.
I used to say this: The Catholic Church has the three-legged tripod of Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium - the teaching authority. All three upholds Truth in all its fullness. If anyone of these are absent, Truth cannot be held in its fullness. And what is Truth. Truth isn't a something - it's a somebody and His name is Jesus Christ.
Pretty good, eh?
Tell me a "Tradition" (with a capital T) of the Catholic Church that makes this saying so true and unique? Having trouble? I'll tell you what it is. There is only ONE Tradition and it is this: Sacred Tradition is the oral teaching of Jesus Christ handed down to his apostles, who in turn handed it down to their disciples (the early Church Fathers), and then to the next generation, and then finally to us. It's verbal communication.
I'll admit that many denominations have imposed their spin on scripture and teachings of the gospel and have placed human interpretations and traditions upon their flocks. Historically, so has the Catholic Church. If you want to say, on face value, that the Catholic Church is without err because it was inspired by the Holy Spirit, I have to call foul and say you DO NOT KNOW history. The Catholic Church is full of human traditions it claims were HS inspired, yet fallacies of the years proves otherwise. One present example is two priests telling a confessor two opposite remedies for ongoing sin: One claiming venial, the other claiming mortal. Which is correct? To suggest In Persona Christi is interesting whereas Christ is directing a condition that can send a person to heaven or hell. Hmmm.
Does a bear shit in the woods? Does Biden poop his pants? Is the pope a dope?
