I have mentioned this for years and finally its seems it will be talked about

[DCandtheUTBand]

I always called it reviving SEATO without Pakistan and adding India. Is it possible Joe will be backed into this?

Time for an Asian NATO: Meet the Indo-Pacific Treaty Organization

Geopolitics is always evolving. In the current context, it is time to talk about creating an Indo-Pacific Treaty Organization.

www.19fortyfive.com

 

[BamaFan1137]

I've always felt like India was a more natural US ally. Pakistan borders Afghanistan and Iran so strategically speaking that's advantageous but beyond geography, I don't see any other obvious advantages.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Former Trump NSA guy says we need a ton of bombers to face down China.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...n-air-force-needs-300-400-b-21-raiders-206827

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Former Trump NSA guy says we need a ton of bombers to face down China.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...n-air-force-needs-300-400-b-21-raiders-206827

We first need to clean out the US politicians who are bought and paid for by China.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

We first need to clean out the US politicians who are bought and paid for by China.

Uh we can chew gum and walk at the same time.

But bombers dont grow on trees and take time to build. Yesterday was the day we needed 100+ of these. Peace through strength. 400 B21s might deter China from adventurism. There will always be corrupt pols. That should not be an excuse to delay building up the military to prepare to take on and thoroughly trounce China.

Now it would be helpful if we would also quit making excuses on why we can not decouple and get on with it, shades of Reagan and the USSR.

 

[RussellCasse]

Uh we can chew gum and walk at the same time.

But bombers dont grow on trees and take time to build. Yesterday was the day we needed 100+ of these. Peace through strength. 400 B21s might deter China from adventurism. There will always be corrupt pols. That should not be an excuse to delay building up the military to prepare to take on and thoroughly trounce China.

Now it would be helpful if we would also quit making excuses on why we can not decouple and get on with it, shades of Reagan and the USSR.

Normally I would agree, But we can’t even chew gum.

I have heard a similar argument on fixing the VA for over 30+ years. Yet here we are.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Normally I would agree, But we can’t even chew gum.

I have heard a similar argument on fixing the VA for over 30+ years. Yet here we are.

One of the few things we have done "right" is the military. We don't really lose battles or wars. Our politicians screw up the "peace" and bureaucrats waste money. But for now we make the best hardware in the world.

Reagan and T Roosevelt had it right.

If you are an elephant and everyone else is a house cat they don't mess with you.

 

[RussellCasse]

One of the few things we have done "right" is the military. We don't really lose battles or wars. Our politicians screw up the "peace" and bureaucrats waste money. But for now we make the best hardware in the world.

Reagan and T Roosevelt had it right.

If you are an elephant and everyone else is a house cat they don't mess with you.

And yet, the veterans that fought those wars get shit on, while people like Zelensky get pre written checks off taxpayers backs to be laundered back to politicians.

I am a no on everything until our glass house is shattered.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

And yet, the veterans that fought those wars get shit on, while people like Zelensky get pre written checks off taxpayers backs to be laundered back to politicians.

I am a no on everything until our glass house is shattered.

That was my point. Any new programs run by the same corrupt people will become a corrupt program. Get the corruption out, then we can get programs run by honest people started.

 

[RussellCasse]

Just a quick update and some context. For years I have heard, we can fix multiple things at once (walk and chew gum).

As of September, there are over 1 million veterans in backlog status waiting on disability assistance, which is required to be decided before they can receive full service for help. 1 million.

What’s a backlog? Essentially, it’s anyone waiting for longer than 6 months for disability assistance. In many cases, it’s years.

So yeah, I am a no on funding more wars, or weapons of war for the military industrial complex, until that is no longer the case. It’s disgusting and offensive IMO. All while This little Nazi MFER from Ukraine keeps getting funded.

Yeah I said it. Come at me.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Every time my dad approached the VA he got nothing! His medicare sadly is superior.

Wife's grandfather's prostate cancer missed by VA and caught by private sector doctors. It was too late. VA is horrible and should just be done away with. Put that money towards care via private sector doctors and move on.

 

[jimbo1313R]

Just a quick update and some context. For years I have heard, we can fix multiple things at once (walk and chew gum).

As of September, there are over 1 million veterans in backlog status waiting on disability assistance, which is required to be decided before they can receive full service for help. 1 million.

What’s a backlog? Essentially, it’s anyone waiting for longer than 6 months for disability assistance. In many cases, it’s years.

So yeah, I am a no on funding more wars, or weapons of war for the military industrial complex, until that is no longer the case. It’s disgusting and offensive IMO. All while This little Nazi MFER from Ukraine keeps getting funded.

Yeah I said it. Come at me.

I'm sorry, but you have little sense so I can't "come at you". You let Russia decimate the little countries and soon along with China as an Ally they will think They can conquer the world. I am much too old to worry about Russia but not too old to be scared of people with your small attitude. I understand and are with you 100% on funding our veterans, they are entitled to the best, but you cannot ignore the countries who need help because of Russia wanting to take them over. JMO

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I'm sorry, but you have little sense so I can't "come at you". You let Russia decimate the little countries and soon along with China as an Ally they will think They can conquer the world. I am much too old to worry about Russia but not too old to be scared of people with your small attitude. I understand and are with you 100% on funding our veterans, they are entitled to the best, but you cannot ignore the countries who need help because of Russia wanting to take them over. JMO

Stick to ogling young girls in softball uniforms, Jimmy.

 

[RussellCasse]

I'm sorry, but you have little sense so I can't "come at you". You let Russia decimate the little countries and soon along with China as an Ally they will think They can conquer the world. I am much too old to worry about Russia but not too old to be scared of people with your small attitude. I understand and are with you 100% on funding our veterans, they are entitled to the best, but you cannot ignore the countries who need help because of Russia wanting to take them over. JMO

Shocked that you bought into the propaganda. Really shocked.

Question I have posed on here many times that hasn’t gotten a good answer yet.

If Texas seceded, and Russia was funding biolabs in Texas, right after a Russian funded global pandemic killed millions, all while attempting to make Texas an ally….

How quickly would the United States, invade Texas?

While you’re at it, can you show me on a map where Iraqs WMDs were?

Thank you

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I'm sorry, but you have little sense so I can't "come at you". You let Russia decimate the little countries and soon along with China as an Ally they will think They can conquer the world. I am much too old to worry about Russia but not too old to be scared of people with your small attitude. I understand and are with you 100% on funding our veterans, they are entitled to the best, but you cannot ignore the countries who need help because of Russia wanting to take them over. JMO

Why is it America's responsibility...and not NATO's?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

We first need to clean out the US politicians who are bought and paid for by China.

If we did that...we would need an overall election for 90% of the offices

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Shocked that you bought into the propaganda. Really shocked.

Question I have posed on here many times that hasn’t gotten a good answer yet.

If Texas seceded, and Russia was funding biolabs in Texas, right after a Russian funded global pandemic killed millions, all while attempting to make Texas an ally….

How quickly would the United States, invade Texas?

While you’re at it, can you show me on a map where Iraqs WMDs were?

Thank you

Just to stir a little debate here...VERY different situations. Iraq got their ass beat in the first Gulf war and signed UN resolution 1441, which allowed among MANY other things for US to keep Northern and Southern Iraq airspace clear, and for unfettered access to nuclear facilities. Well Saddam was shooting air to air missiles at our pilots(many who are still to this day friends of mine) and refused inspections. And to answer the question, YES there were some WMD's..and we 100% KNOW they made it in to Syria by trucks. Please remember Saddam gassed his own people in Northern Iraq during this time, another violation of resolution 1441.

That being said...not so sure a total invasion was necessary, and believe the war mongers did this to get paid. The world is a better place without the Husseins

 

[RussellCasse]

Just to stir a little debate here...VERY different situations. Iraq got their ass beat in the first Gulf war and signed UN resolution 1441, which allowed among MANY other things for US to keep Northern and Southern Iraq airspace clear, and for unfettered access to nuclear facilities. Well Saddam was shooting air to air missiles at our pilots(many who are still to this day friends of mine) and refused inspections. And to answer the question, YES there were some WMD's..and we 100% KNOW they made it in to Syria by trucks. Please remember Saddam gassed his own people in Northern Iraq during this time, another violation of resolution 1441.

That being said...not so sure a total invasion was necessary, and believe the war mongers did this to get paid. The world is a better place without the Husseins

We attacked Iraq as payback for 911.

Let that sink in. Not the the guys from countries involved. Iraq.

This wasn’t about WMDs. It never was. WMD’s were just the salespitch to justify invasion.

I say that as someone, who at the time supported the war, and was looking head on at deployment to the region.

But after the war and emotions settled, and years of digging into the facts, it’s an invasion that shouldn’t have been a priority at all based on the reason given (WMDs)

If we “liberated” countries based on atrocities and weapons of mass destruction….

China, Russia, North Korea, Iran and a host of other nations, would have been priorities long before Iraq.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

We attacked Iraq as payback for 911.

Let that sink in. Not the the guys from countries involved. Iraq.

This wasn’t about WMDs. It never was. WMD’s were just the salespitch to justify invasion.

I say that as someone, who at the time supported the war, and was looking head on at deployment to the region.

But after the war and emotions settled, and years of digging into the facts, it’s an invasion that shouldn’t have been a priority at all based on the reason given (WMDs)

If we “liberated” countries based on atrocities and weapons of mass destruction….

China, Russia, North Korea, Iran and a host of other nations, would have been priorities long before Iraq.

Iran and NK where on the hit list but Bush got bogged down with purple thumbs.

China can only be handled with the USSR treatment of a Pacific "NATO" and economic isolation. Nixon and Clinton f'd that up.

Yeltsin and Russia were right where we needed them but Clinton had to FA with Serbia and Kosovo. Siding with Muslim terrorists Clinton F'd up again. Now we got Putin and he went into Ossetia, Crimea and Ukraine. Yeltsin would not have done any of that and Ukraine would already be a part of the EU if not NATO if Yeltsin had stayed in power. Our humiliation of him and Russia during that war led in part to Putin's rise.

If Bush had stayed the course, put Aziz in charge, and took down Tehran then Lil Kim would have given up his nukes once he found 4 carrier strike groups parked outside his door.

For me America first is passive subjugation of a post USSR Russia, assisting a Yeltsin economically so that the average Russians is fat happy and willing to live under Pax Americana. It is not running to the defense of Muslims in the heart of Europe. It is cutting China off in the 90s instead of giving them MFN status. Its realizing that to be #1 means you are THE leader.

Its realizing that Russia, China, Iran and NK are enemies and must be dealt with aggressively. When these bullies role into town and start shooting up the place the Marshall has to put them in jail or 6 feet down.

Pax Americana (my kind of America first) in on the ropes. We are the indispensable country when it comes to peace and prosperity for the world. The ostrich will end up getting kicked in the ass and never see it coming.