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I didn’t see any Nazi or KKK flags, banners, or signs.

Is this what you mean by white supremacy @kalimgoodman? White people marching through Philadelphia? Can you elaborate on this?

Also very telling in your article:

“Police say no property was destroyed last night during this incident.”

See the difference between BLM and Antifa compared to this “white supremacy” group?
 
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So if white people protest they’re white Supremacist? Is that really where you’re going with this thread where I just simply said it was OK for everybody to love America? Thanks for disrespecting the thread.
That’s what I want clarification on. Is it now white supremacy if an all white group of people want to peacefully protest?

if that’s the case, Utah is a very racist state since our demographic is a very high percentage of Caucasian decent.
 
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I didn’t see any Nazi or KKK flags, banners, or signs.

Is this what you mean by white supremacy @kalimgoodman? White people marching through Philadelphia? Can you elaborate on this?

Also very telling in your article:

“Police say no property was destroyed last night during this incident.”

See the difference between BLM and Antifa compared to this “white supremacy” group?
'I didn’t see any Nazi or KKK flags, banners, or signs"

This tells me you're out of touch. Stop this 1960 way of thinking.

You should never defend white supremacy. I don't compare hate groups. There is no "better" way of being hateful but do you.
 
So if white people protest they’re white Supremacist? Is that really where you’re going with this thread where I just simply said it was OK for everybody to love America? Thanks for disrespecting the thread.
It was meant to be satire and making fun of those clowns.
 
'I didn’t see any Nazi or KKK flags, banners, or signs"

This tells me you're out of touch. Stop this 1960 way of thinking.

You should never defend white supremacy. I don't compare hate groups. There is no "better" way of being hateful but do you.
You didn’t answer my question

Is a group of white people who are peacefully protesting now considered white supremacy?
 
That’s what I want clarification on. Is it now white supremacy if an all white group of people want to peacefully protest?

if that’s the case, Utah is a very racist state since our demographic is a very high percentage of Caucasian decent.
They are apart of a group called the Patriot Front. Which is a white supremacy group. What more evidence do you need? They were also shouting racist things, which is on social media.

Not sure why you took that approach...
 
They are apart of a group called the Patriot Front. Which is a white supremacy group. What more evidence do you need? They were also shouting racist things, which is on social media.

Not sure why you took that approach...
I’ll be honest, I know nothing about Patriot Front since I don’t follow white supremacy groups so I’m going to assume what you say about them is true. However, like it or not, they do get to voice their opinion as they are peacefully protesting for what they believe in. Just like BLM gets to voice their opinions or Antifa calling everything and everyone fascists while exercising fascism by raising violence against others for not agreeing.
 
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So if white people protest they’re white Supremacist? Is that really where you’re going with this thread where I just simply said it was OK for everybody to love America? Thanks for disrespecting the thread.
I think that actually is a group that has ideologies that fall in line with the definition of “white supremacy”.

That said, to even try to compare this to the Summer of Love is beyond ridiculous (and pretty racist). 100 idiots with white masks on peacefully carrying American flags is hardly scary.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - demand for white supremacy far outweighs supply.
 
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I’ll be honest, I know nothing about Patriot Front since I don’t follow white supremacy groups so I’m going to assume what you say about them is true. However, like it or not, they do get to voice their opinion as they are peacefully protesting for what they believe in. Just like BLM gets to voice their opinions or Antifa calling everything and everyone fascists while exercising fascism by raising violence against others for not agreeing.
I think they all are bad and you can check every thread on my opinions on that. There is a stereotype that conservative white men go out of there way to defend those guys because they want to believe that white supremacy isn't a thing. You definitely checked all of the boxes on that one. Be careful with automatically assuming that people have to lie about white supremacy existing. Just research the groups.

I am curious as to what was your initial reaction to BLM. Did you defend them right away, like you did with those clowns?
 
I think that actually is a group that has ideologies that fall in line with the definition of “white supremacy”.

That said, to even try to compare this to the Summer of Love is beyond ridiculous (and pretty racist). 100 idiots with white masks on peacefully carrying American flags is hardly scary.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - demand for white supremacy far outweighs supply.
Who compared?

He’s a liberal. Liberals are only happy when we hate each other over race, religion or politics.

You seriously think anyone that doesn't agree with white or black supremacy is happy when it appears? That's your comment?
 
I’ll be honest, I know nothing about Patriot Front since I don’t follow white supremacy groups so I’m going to assume what you say about them is true. However, like it or not, they do get to voice their opinion as they are peacefully protesting for what they believe in. Just like BLM gets to voice their opinions or Antifa calling everything and everyone fascists while exercising fascism by raising violence against others for not agreeing.
I had to do some research, I’ve never heard of them.

They are certainly extremists. They aren’t a part of any currently existing political ideology. Everything I see they just look like total anarchists.

Perhaps they are a white supremacist group (there’s no sign of anything but white dudes) but they certainly don’t lead with that.
 
I think they all are bad and you can check every thread on my opinions on that. There is a stereotype that conservative white men go out of there way to defend those guys because they want to believe that white supremacy isn't a thing. You definitely checked all of the boxes on that one. Be careful with automatically assuming that people have to lie about white supremacy existing. Just research the groups.

I am curious as to what was your initial reaction to BLM. Did you defend them right away, like you did with those clowns?
I think they all are bad and you can check every thread on my opinions on that. There is a stereotype that conservative white men go out of there way to defend those guys because they want to believe that white supremacy isn't a thing. You definitely checked all of the boxes on that one. Be careful with automatically assuming that people have to lie about white supremacy existing. Just research the groups.

I am curious as to what was your initial reaction to BLM. Did you defend them right away, like you did with those clowns?
I don’t believe I defended them Kalim, I simply asked if a group of white people peacefully protest, is it white supremacy? Our media believes that is the definition of white supremacy, the goal posts have been moved again.

I am an advocate for free speech, whether I agree with it or not, even hate speech. That goes for everyone of all backgrounds and races.

You asked what is my initial reaction to BLM when it started? Honest answer, couldn’t care less one way or another as I’m not going to limit anyone’s voice. When they started hurting people and looting, I looked into it more and come to find out it morphed into a fundraising arm of the Democrat party. So that tells me they are full of shit and do not care about the black community.
 
It’s OK to love America.
“We’re not going to make America great again. It was never that great,” Cuomo, a Democrat, remarked at a bill signing event in New York City in 2018. The comment was met by an audible reaction from the crowd.

Translation: We really need to kill a bunch of old folks. :mad:
 
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Who compared?



You seriously think anyone that doesn't agree with white or black supremacy is happy when it appears? That's your comment?
No my comment is you brought some fringe movement racist BS into a thread where OP is trying to be positive.

You’re a liberal and liberals cannot stand any positivity or unity. Leftist movements don’t work when people are united.
 
I had to do some research, I’ve never heard of them.

They are certainly extremists. They aren’t a part of any currently existing political ideology. Everything I see they just look like total anarchists.

Perhaps they are a white supremacist group (there’s no sign of anything but white dudes) but they certainly don’t lead with that.
This is the first white supremacy group I’ve seen. I don’t consider Proud Boys white supremacy, especially since their leader is Hispanic and they have many members that are not white. I have no idea who the bugaloo (spelling?) boys are either.
 
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This is the first white supremacy group I’ve seen. I don’t consider Proud Boys white supremacy, especially since their leader is Hispanic and they have many members that are not white. I have no idea who the bugaloo (spelling?) boys are either.
I don’t either. These “groups” are clearly struggling to get numbers and any attention because the country isn’t as racist as the liberals want it to be. But they’re trying to fix that.

 
I don’t believe I defended them Kalim, I simply asked if a group of white people peacefully protest, is it white supremacy? Our media believes that is the definition of white supremacy, the goal posts have been moved again.

I am an advocate for free speech, whether I agree with it or not, even hate speech. That goes for everyone of all backgrounds and races.

You asked what is my initial reaction to BLM when it started? Honest answer, couldn’t care less one way or another as I’m not going to limit anyone’s voice. When they started hurting people and looting, I looked into it more and come to find out it morphed into a fundraising arm of the Democrat party. So that tells me they are full of shit and do not care about the black community.
Fair enough, I definitely know you're one of the good ones. I know the media lie about people being racist but I don't remember them lying about a white supremacy March.

We are in agreement about BLM. They are the worse to me because it effects me directly.
 
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No my comment is you brought some fringe movement racist BS into a thread where OP is trying to be positive.

You’re a liberal and liberals cannot stand any positivity or unity. Leftist movements don’t work when people are united.
BLM and Antifa are fringe groups. You can't have it both ways.
 
BLM and Antifa are fringe groups. You can't have it both ways.
What in God’s name are you talking about?

BLM is not a fringe group. They renamed a square in DC and painted a street - the co founder made enough money to spend over $3MM on real estate during a pandemic. BLM is one of the most financially successful and organized political movements in the history of the country. And I’m not sure what they’ve actually accomplished for the black community - if you have some examples I’m all ears.

I agree Antifa is less organized but they were in the streets in many cities in massive numbers causing billions in damage and wrecking entire neighborhoods for months on end. On multiple occasions they literally occupied and took over sections of cities. Over a dozen people died because of the unrest Antifa caused.

Show me one incident this side of Charlottesville where there were more than 100 white idiots in one place, where anything was damaged or anyone was hurt. You can’t compare the scale of Antifa or BLM to any of these “white nationalist” groups (I’m not even sure that’s what they are).

Once again, so intellectually dishonest it’s hard to have a conversation.
 
So you want to be just as divisive as @kalimgoodman
Great
You’re not wrong, but one ferreted out some fringe group of assholes and acted like it was a massive movement or an elected official being polarizing.

The other one found something an elected official said.

Both are bad, but they aren’t the same.
 
I had to do some research, I’ve never heard of them.

They are certainly extremists. They aren’t a part of any currently existing political ideology. Everything I see they just look like total anarchists.

Perhaps they are a white supremacist group (there’s no sign of anything but white dudes) but they certainly don’t lead with that.
No, these assholes are definitely white supremacists.

 
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You’re not wrong, but one ferreted out some fringe group of assholes and acted like it was a massive movement or an elected official being polarizing.

The other one found something an elected official said.

Both are bad, but they aren’t the same.

No, these assholes are definitely white supremacists.


Yeah he tried to make excuses for them. Shocking but ill respect the OP and not continue to mess up his thread.
 
None of this has any place in this thread I wish you would stop. Just one thread where we all can agree that we love America despite chuckleheads.
Good intention but long odds. Chuckleheads have stage center at the moment.
 
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So you want to be just as divisive as @kalimgoodman
Great

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