Getting better at QB,,, and a 2019 team discussion for Gator fans.

[instaGATOR]

JMOHO's of course, but I don't think that Franks needs to get a 'quantum leap' better as a QB, he just needs to be 'consistently good' across the season. Take his best couple of games in 2018 and make them the consistent standard in 2019, and the Gators could be in Atlanta. After that, the entire team would have to bring it on every play in order to reach post season nirvana...

Nothing has changed with my backup QB opinions. Get experience for the 2 backups in the patsy games and in the blowouts. Injury protection for the starter, with much needed playing time experience for the backups.

My answer for the secondary is: SS Stewart-FS Huggins-Star Dean-- CB's Henderson-Wilson

The OL, at Hevesy's direction, will sort itself out in August. No worries mates.
The 2006 NC OL had more questions, and with a less talented depth situation.

RB-WR-TE will be a play and rotate everybody all the time situation.
Same holds true for the front 7, LB-DE-DT

WORK needed on both sides of the S-T's. Blocking kicks, and preventing blocked kicks.
They are ROCK solid with the kickers and their backups.

~ 2020 Recruiting: Keep on,,, keeping on,,, and loo-king gud so far...

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Rival TROLLS will be announced as such with their first post on this thread....

 

[instaGATOR]

Stolen Idea....

Who's one Florida Gators player who you're "pounding the table" for in 2019?

This is a fun exercise that I participated in. There would always be a player or two that I found myself being a firm believer in, and I didn't care who knew it.

And over time, I'd look back on that belief and see if my takes were correct. Sometimes they were a hit, and sometimes... not so much. But that's what makes these exercises fun.

With that being said, which Gators player are you all in on for 2019? Whether it be simply your favorite player, someone you have 100% confidence in being a game-changer, a young/unknown prospect who you think will make a surprising impact, and so on.

This is where I stole the idea from. It seemed to fit in with my new thread.
https://florida.rivals.com/news/which-gators-player-are-you-pounding-the-table-for-in-2019-

 

[oozie7]

Stiner and Taylor need to sit. If I had my way our secondary would be:

CB- Henderson
CB- Wilson
Star- Huggins
FS: Dean
SS: Davis

 

[instaGATOR]

I could accept that grouping at position. I believe that Huggins and Dean are 'fairly interchangeable' in the safety-Nic positions.

Dean 6-3 194

Huggins 6-1 206

My reasoning for Dean at Star and Huggs at Safety are these:
Dean played CB in 2018 at a Fr All SEC Team level.
Dean played well as the 1st team Star in the Spring.
Star is the more 'knowledge' based position and Dean has the experience.

Huggins played ST's and backup FS in 2018.
He has more of a hard hitting safety body and attitude imo.

So, I'm curious to know why would you switch them around?

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I don't think I'd go your switch, unless Davis greatly out performed Taylor in Fall practice.

Taylor 6-1 202 Sr -- 13 Gms, 5 starts, 64 Tkls, 8 Tkls in Bowl.

Davis 5-11 202 Jr -- 9 Gms, 0 starts, 22 Tkls, 4 Tkls vs SCa.

 

[oozie7]

I could accept that grouping at position. I believe that Huggins and Dean are 'fairly interchangeably' in the safety-Nic positions.

Dean 6-3 194

Huggins 6-1 206

My reasoning for Dean at Star and Huggs at Safety are these:
Dean played CB in 2018 at a Fr All SEC Team level.
Dean played well as the 1st team Star in the Spring.
Star is the more 'knowledge' based position and Dean has the experience.

Huggins played ST's and backup FS in 2018.
He has more of a hard hitting safety body and attitude imo.

So, I'm curious to know why would you switch them around?

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I don't think I'd go your switch, unless Davis greatly out performed Taylor in Fall practice.

Taylor 6-1 202 Sr -- 13 Gms, 5 starts, 64 Tkls, 8 Tkls in Bowl.

Davis 5-11 202 Jr -- 9 Gms, 0 starts, 22 Tkls, 4 Tkls vs SCa.

That’s fair. From what little I’ve seen Huggins has better cover skills and is faster. At the nickel you’re usually going against slot receivers who are some of the fastest players on offense. Dean was alright but he got abused a lot outside where you could give a lot more help, he won’t have that luxury as much at Star.

Because of his experience I think Dean would be better at FS where he can oversee the entire defense. Then he can give help over the top to Huggins when necessary. I’m fine with either option as long as they’re both on the field. Almost every single time we gave up a big passing play Stiner or Taylor was in coverage. Both are too slow.

 

[PacoGator19]

Brad Stewart can play if he can ever get his head screwed on straight.

 

[instaGATOR]

Most of UF's DB's can play multiple positions. Fall should settle out who starts where and the depth chart, and then game performance will create adjustments as the season goes along, as usual.

Where I though they should begin,,, but I'm flexible due to the talent & depth.
SS Stewart 6-1 200 - Taylor or Lenton
FS Huggins 6-1 206 - Stiner or Davis
Star Dean 6-3 194 - Whittenmore 6-3 190 - Huggins
CB Henderson 6-1 191 - Elam - McWilliams
CB Wilson 6-0 190 - Hill - Kimbrough
(Brian Edwards ???)

 

[Gator Fever]

Stolen Idea....

Who's one Florida Gators player who you're "pounding the table" for in 2019?

This is a fun exercise that I participated in. There would always be a player or two that I found myself being a firm believer in, and I didn't care who knew it.

And over time, I'd look back on that belief and see if my takes were correct. Sometimes they were a hit, and sometimes... not so much. But that's what makes these exercises fun.

With that being said, which Gators player are you all in on for 2019? Whether it be simply your favorite player, someone you have 100% confidence in being a game-changer, a young/unknown prospect who you think will make a surprising impact, and so on.

This is where I stole the idea from. It seemed to fit in with my new thread.
https://florida.rivals.com/news/which-gators-player-are-you-pounding-the-table-for-in-2019-

I think Jones will end up being pretty damn good once he takes over at QB. Whether that happens in 2019 sometime is a big ? and will depend on Franks and how we are doing I guess. My guess is with a few starts under his belt he would be better than Franks.

 

[instaGATOR]

I think Jones will end up being pretty damn good once he takes over at QB. Whether that happens in 2019 sometime is a big ? and will depend on Franks and how we are doing I guess. My guess is with a few starts under his belt he would be better than Franks.

QB Depth Chart to begin the 2019 season:
1. Franks rsJr - starter experience
2. Trask rsJr - best passer on the team
3. Jones rsFr - best running QB, but loaded at RB.
4. Toney Jr - human joystick, wildcat TD pass to Stephens for MsSt win.
5. Sproles rsJr and several others could be serviceable if needed....

My old guy dark horse is Ath/QB/CB-KR Jaylin Jackson rsFr - Tampa, FL
>>> He turned down a ship to UK and others, to walk-on at UF.

My FNG dark horse is,,,
E-#45 Ath/WR Ja'markis Weston 6-3 195 Fr **** - Clewiston, FL (Summer-B)

 

[instaGATOR]

What will make the UF passing offense a beast for 2019?
Team in 2nd year of Dan's offense,,, PLUS....

9 ships returning. Various Recruit Rankings out of HS:

R-#13 WR-Y Van Jefferson 6-2 197 rsSr **** R-138/250

R-#15 WR-X Tyrie Cleveland 6-2 206 Sr **** R-73/100

R-#35 WR-slot Josh Hammond 6-0 194 Sr **** R-160/250

R-#36 WR-slot Freddie Swain 6-0 199 Sr **** R-161/250

R-#59 WR-Y Rick Wells 6-0 202 rsJr ****

R-#4 WR-X Trevon Grimes 6-5 210 Jr ***** R-33/100

R-#63 Ath/WR/RB/QB-dt Kadarius Toney 5-11 190 Jr ***
('Human Joystick' way under-rated - R-11.4 - Rec 10.4 - Harvin Jr)
Any of the above 7 might be 2020 gone, leaving lots of room for incoming recruits.

BTW, Talent-Depth-Experience looks Top 5 in Nation to me....
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R-#12 TE/WR Kyle Pitts 6-6 246 So **** (size with speed, LB's nightmare)

E-#5 WR Jacob Copeland 6-0 198 rsFr **** R-132/250

85. WR Trey Thompson 6-2 201 rsSo -- WO


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E-#12 WR Arjei Henderson 6-2 190 Fr **** R-130/250 - Richmond, TX

E-#40 Ath/WR/FS Trent Whittenmore 6-3 190 Fr **** - Gainesville, FL

E-#44 WR Dionte Marks 5-11 178 Fr **** - Deland, FL

E-#45 Ath/WR Ja'markis Weston 6-3 195 Fr **** - Clewiston, FL

4 FNG's for a total of 12 WR's with very solid quality and depth.

 

[Gator Fever]

QB Depth Chart to begin the 2019 season:
1. Franks rsJr - starter experience
2. Trask rsJr - best passer on the team
3. Jones rsFr - best running QB, but loaded at RB.
4. Toney Jr - human joystick, wildcat TD pass to Stephens for MsSt win.
5. Sproles rsJr and several others could be serviceable if needed....

My old guy dark horse is Ath/QB/CB-KR Jaylin Jackson rsFr - Tampa, FL
>>> He turned down a ship to UK and others, to walk-on at UF.

My FNG dark horse is,,,
E-#45 Ath/WR Ja'markis Weston 6-3 195 Fr **** - Clewiston, FL (Summer-B)

No way Trask would be the replacement for more than that game if Franks was pulled.

 

[instaGATOR]

No way Trask would be the replacement for more than that game if Franks was pulled.

And goes right along with 'all quality recruiting ends in August',,,, right???

Dude, we are all allowed our own opinions, no problem... (but you're just wrong)

 

[Gator Fever]

And goes right along with 'all quality recruiting ends in August',,,, right???

Dude, we are all allowed our own opinions, no problem... (but you're just wrong)

It did in August that is why our recruits jumped ship to the transfer portal and community college after that before the season even arrived

 

[instaGATOR]

It did in August that is why our recruits jumped ship to the transfer portal and community college after that before the season even arrived

Quality recruiting didn't end in Aug, see commit list for confirmation.
Of the 2 xfer outs, one was committed to Mullen as far back a MsSt.
The other got beat out in Spring and so sought lesser competition.
The top notch LB will be back in a year or two with playing experience. He would have red-shirted here this year anyway, so no big deal.

It's a 'SWING and a MISS',,, but nice try.

 

[Gator Fever]

Quality recruiting didn't end in Aug, see commit list for confirmation.
Of the 2 xfer outs, one was committed to Mullen as far back a MsSt.
The other got beat out in Spring and so sought lesser competition.
The top notch LB will be back in a year or two with playing experience. He would have red-shirted here this year anyway, so no big deal.

It's a 'SWING and a MISS',,, but nice try.

Yep its still going on now - what would be the new ranking with updates to every team? No way you can have someone like QB Jones around after that if there was any truth to the stuff however.

 

[instaGATOR]

You're starting to bounce off the walls again Fev. Get a grip.

1. Quality recruiting did not end in August. See commit list to confirm.
2. Outsider class ranking has no bearing on #1.
3. Dan has, and continues to recruit at a very high level for the TEAM that he's building.

Lastly, anyone not brain-dead that watched the Spring game with open eyes and no bias, knows that Trask goes in if Franks comes out for any reason, other than end of game or blowout playing time. Jones needs it the most, so that's likely why he'd get it.
But for a full time replacement for Franks, it's Trask for sure.

 

[Gator Fever]

You're starting to bounce off the walls again Fev. Get a grip.

1. Quality recruiting did not end in August. See commit list to confirm.
2. Outsider class ranking has no bearing on #1.
3. Dan has, and continues to recruit at a very high level for the TEAM that he's building.

Lastly, anyone not brain-dead that watched the Spring game with open eyes and no bias, knows that Trask goes in if Franks comes out for any reason, other than end of game or blowout playing time. Jones needs it the most, so that's likely why he'd get it.
But for a full time replacement for Franks, it's Trask for sure.

Franks may keep the job but I bet Jones not Trask finishes the season out if he was to get a bad injury or lose his job.

 

[bradleygator]

I started last year really not liking Franks, but have to admit he came a long way over the course of the season. By the end of the year, he was playing pretty good ball and his final stats were respectable for a rs sophomore playing in the SEC. 58 percent completion percentage, 7.6 ypa, 24 tds to 6 picks and another 350 yds and 7 tds running is a pretty solid year. Offense seemed to open up for him once Mullen figured out he could run that draw. And you have to give it to him, he ran the ball real hard when he did run. I don't think we'll be outmanned at qb in too many games this year.

Backup qb is an interesting question.

 

[Gator Fever]

I started last year really not liking Franks, but have to admit he came a long way over the course of the season. By the end of the year, he was playing pretty good ball and his final stats were respectable for a rs sophomore playing in the SEC. 58 percent completion percentage, 7.6 ypa, 24 tds to 6 picks and another 350 yds and 7 tds running is a pretty solid year. Offense seemed to open up for him once Mullen figured out he could run that draw. And you have to give it to him, he ran the ball real hard when he did run. I don't think we'll be outmanned at qb in too many games this year.

Backup qb is an interesting question.

I just hope he can take a nice step forward with his passing in the tougher games. I did really like how he showed that running threat a lot more after the Missouri game and that is big with Mullen's offense.

 

[instaGATOR]

Franks may keep the job but I bet Jones not Trask finishes the season out if he was to get a bad injury or lose his job.

Careful, or you have some drunk fool or a circle of jerks saying that you're in love with Jones, or at least have a 'man-crush' on him, whatever that is....

Jones will start as soon as Dan believes that he's the best QB available. What you say or believe about it, won't make a tinker's-damn either way...

BTW, if-when Jones is the best QB, I'm fine with him getting the start.

 

[TaylorDawg03]

Yeah , Franks DOES need to take a quantum leap LOL. What's his completion percentage? You will not beat us and won't play for ANY titles as long as Franks is QB and Grantham is coaching your D

 

[instaGATOR]

Yeah , Franks DOES need to take a quantum leap LOL. What's his completion percentage? You will not beat us and won't play for ANY titles as long as Franks is QB and Grantham is coaching your D

Franks + offense = 27 Pts vs LSU
Fromm + offense = 16 Pts vs LSU

UGly defense vs LSU = 36 Pts
Granthan defense vs LSU = 19 Pts

#10 UF 41 - 15 Mich #7
#5 UGly 21 - 28 Tex #15

So you're a genius, and your team wins NC's all the time...

 

[GatorNation79]

I think Jones will end up being pretty damn good once he takes over at QB. Whether that happens in 2019 sometime is a big ? and will depend on Franks and how we are doing I guess. My guess is with a few starts under his belt he would be better than Franks.

I havent really seen either. I hope the best man wins...we need a good QB

 

[fsumc]

Yeah , Franks DOES need to take a quantum leap LOL. What's his completion percentage? You will not beat us and won't play for ANY titles as long as Franks is QB and Grantham is coaching your D

I agree with this.

The other side of this coin though is that UGA won’t win a title with a roster containing over 50% of its players from the state of Georgia. Hasn’t happened since 1990.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Franks + offense = 27 Pts vs LSU
Fromm + offense = 16 Pts vs LSU

UGly defense vs LSU = 36 Pts
Granthan defense vs LSU = 19 Pts

#10 UF 41 - 15 Mich #7
#5 UGly 21 - 28 Tex #15

So you're a genius, and your team wins NC's all the time...

Not near as revelent as UGA 36- UF 19 or UF 16-UK 27, UGA 34-UK 17, UF 17-Missouri 38 and UGA 43-Missouri 29.

Never claimed to be a genius and we haven't won a NC in a while, but we are spanking that gator ads regular again.

 

[instaGATOR]

Not near as revelent as UGA 36- UF 19 or UF 16-UK 27, UGA 34-UK 17, UF 17-Missouri 38 and UGA 43-Missouri 29.

Never claimed to be a genius and we haven't won a NC in a while, but we are spanking that gator ads regular again.

This decade it was UF 4-3 UGly when McLame took a dump and got fired.
So UGly got even at 4-4 during UF's 4-7 McLame departure season.
Then with a new staff and anew system on O&D in Dan's 1st year, you got to 4-5.
Now you've got to win in 2019 to barely win your 1st decade since the 1980's.

1950's - UF
1960's UF
1970's UGly
1980's UGly -- Only NC in 1980
1990's UF -- 1996 NC
2000's UF -- 2006 & 2008 NC
2010's -- In 2019, it's still yet to be determined.

Gator fans everywhere do understand why you losers are flooding in here,,, begging for some mostly undeserved attention and validation from the BIG Boy Gators... (pitiful little nuttlickers)

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Franks + offense = 27 Pts vs LSU
Fromm + offense = 16 Pts vs LSU

UGly defense vs LSU = 36 Pts
Granthan defense vs LSU = 19 Pts

#10 UF 41 - 15 Mich #7
#5 UGly 21 - 28 Tex #15

So you're a genius, and your team wins NC's all the time...

What were those same stats head to head? Asking for a friend.

 

[instaGATOR]

What were those same stats head to head? Asking for a friend.

I always give UGly credit for their great-great Granddaddy's leather helmet wins, back when UF was still smaller than Vandy.

However, since modern football in 1950.
UF H-2-H with UGly in decades:
UF 4 -2 UGly
For your friend, if you really have that one...