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FWIW Around 90 percent of people wear masks

Unless they conducted that pole in New York City or San Francisco they’re a bunch of lying Kerr dogs :)

no clue. I would and have said it’s accurate to what I see in Houston. And Harris county is having massive increases. So the point still stands. Poll was conducted by gallup. Dont think they have a dog in the fight but could be wrong
 
no clue. I would and have said it’s accurate to what I see in Houston. And Harris county is having massive increases. So the point still stands. Poll was conducted by gallup. Dont think they have a dog in the fight but could be wrong
I think you’ll see those numbers in big cities. There seems to be more compliance in big cities because they’ll actually ticket you, it’s virtue signaling, and there’s peer pressure in big cities. When you get outside those big cities it’s much closer to 50-50 at best. Now they’ll be more compliant when they go in the restaurant because they have to or when they go into the shopping store but then when they walk around they pulled her mask down.
 
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I think you’ll see those numbers in big cities. There seems to be more compliance in big cities because they’ll actually ticket you, it’s virtue signaling, and there’s peer pressure in big cities. When you get outside those big cities it’s much closer to 50-50 at best. Now they’ll be more compliant when they go in the restaurant because they have to or when they go into the shopping store but then when they walk around they pulled her mask down.

not disagreeing with that logic. The overall point is the same. In Texas we have a mask mandate. Harris county (basically Houston) is run by libs, and you can’t go anywhere without a mask, Yet the scourge of Humanity continues to run roughshod. The point: Mask Mandates and mask wearing are in place, yet this thing is blowing up
 
That 10% take it home to the family where no one is wearing a mask. And many may wear the mask to the store but not around friends when they get together at someones house.

That would be my daughter. Wore mask to class and the store but not to a small get together. BOOM !!!
 
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That 10% take it home to the family where no one is wearing a mask. And many may wear the mask to the store but not around friends when they get together at someones house.

That would be my daughter. Wore mask to class and the store but not to a small get together. BOOM !!!

lol. I am sure that is some of it, not all.
 
That 10% take it home to the family where no one is wearing a mask. And many may wear the mask to the store but not around friends when they get together at someones house.

That would be my daughter. Wore mask to class and the store but not to a small get together. BOOM !!!

OMG just stop.
 
lol. I am sure that is some of it, not all.

People can't think logically when they think emotionally. Dems have always known that, that's why they always present arguments wrapped in emotion.

Fear, hate, anger.

Logically, anyone look at the data and see that there has been no significant change in the spread of covid since March. If anything, the number of cases has gone UP in most areas.

Around May or so, we started introducing a new variable into the equation: Mask mandates. These were begun in the majority of states in the country.

When a new variable is introduced, you note the change in the larger population.

As I said, cases have actually gone UP in most areas since mask mandate was introduced.

Logically, that proves mask mandates don't work.

Ahhhh...but we have to add the emotional element. People are SCARED of catching covid. They want to believe they can PROTECT themselves from it.

So they believe the mask offers that protection. The mask gives them a sense of control. Even though the numbers prove it is ineffective.

It's a security blanket. It's a nightlight to the 10-year old inside emotional thinkers that believes the monster in the closet will disappear if the nightlight is on.
 
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lol. I am sure that is some of it, not all.
Its exactly how it got to my house.

My daughter wore her mask to uni and when out in public. She went to a Halloween party among small group of friends and no one wore a mask. One girl had it but did not find out until 4 days later. My daughter tested positive on the 5th day and another girl later. I have had these girls over at our house and no one wears a mask unless they go shopping. Nor did my daughter wear masks when going to bible study.

She is 20 so I can only suggest that they wear masks when in others homes for bible study, etc.

I told her but sometimes you have to learn the hard way.

She should be good for 6 mo though. She is out of jail on Saturday. No respiratory or fever now but lingering partial loss of taste and smell.
 
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My daughter has covid and we know exactly how she got it, when and from whom.

Every time it is pointed out that masks don't work, the counter argument is "but they don't work cause not everyone wears them!'

Logically, we know that's not accurate.

Let's take 10 people that have covid. The proponents of wearing the mask tell us that the mask is worn to protect others, not the wearer.

So in that way, we could view the 10 people with covid as being water faucets, and water is going everywhere. Let's say these 10 water faucets produce 100 gallons of water a day.

So then LOGICALLY.....what would happen if you turned off 9 of those faucets? The amount of water produced by all 10 would fall from 100 gallons to 10.

Logically, the same holds for people who have covid IF the mask works in stopping the spread of covid, as its proponents claim.

Take 10 people with covid. They are spreading covid every day. Then give 9 of them a mask.

What's LOGICALLY going to happen IF masks work? Those 9 people will STOP SPREADING COVID TO OTHERS.

Again, mask mandates began across the country around May or so. What happened to the number of covid cases since then? Logically, cases should have fallen by roughly the same percentage as people wearing masks. If it was 90% then there should have LOGICALLY been a roughly 90% drop in cases.

But there wasn't. Which logically proves that masks do NOT stop the spread of covid.

Think logically, not emotionally. This isn't that hard.
 
Its exactly how it got to my house.

My daughter wore her mask to uni and when out in public. She went to a Halloween party among small group of friends and no one wore a mask. One girl had it but did not find out until 4 days later. My daughter tested positive on the 5th day and another girl later. I have had these girls over at our house and no one wears a mask unless they go shopping. Nor did my daughter wear masks when going to bible study.

She is 20 so I can only suggest that they wear masks when in others homes for bible study, etc.

I told her but sometimes you have to learn the hard way.

She should be good for 6 mo though. She is out of jail on Saturday. No respiratory or fever now but lingering partial loss of taste and smell.

all good man. Sorry that happened. That being said, Quite frankly, would wearing a mask have prevented it For certain? My suggestion here is that we have a bunch of evidence now that there is a high probability it wouldn’t have
 
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Every time it is pointed out that masks don't work, the counter argument is "but they don't work cause not everyone wears them!'

Logically, we know that's not accurate.

Let's take 10 people that have covid. The proponents of wearing the mask tell us that the mask is worn to protect others, not the wearer.

So in that way, we could view the 10 people with covid as being water faucets, and water is going everywhere. Let's say these 10 water faucets produce 100 gallons of water a day.

So then LOGICALLY.....what would happen if you turned off 9 of those faucets? The amount of water produced by all 10 would fall from 100 gallons to 10.

Logically, the same holds for people who have covid IF the mask works in stopping the spread of covid, as its proponents claim.

Take 10 people with covid. They are spreading covid every day. Then give 9 of them a mask.

What's LOGICALLY going to happen IF masks work? Those 9 people will STOP SPREADING COVID TO OTHERS.

Again, mask mandates began across the country around May or so. What happened to the number of covid cases since then?

Think logically, not emotionally. This isn't that hard.
100 people 10 without masks

hypothetical so no need to point out the obvious. 10 people get covid and carry it home. Average family of 4. So those ten give it to 30 others and now 40 people out of 100 have it even though 90 wore a masks religiously in public. Worse case hypothetical.

Masks are not going to work in a home setting even if everyone wears one 24/7 because the virus builds up over time in such a confined environment. (see article below) We have opened our windows and kept my daughter in her room for the most part. She wears a mask when in the livingroom with us.

If she did not live at home I would not have even bothered to ask her to wear a mask or social distance even in small groups. Why because she is young and healthy. I am not.

Masks do offer limited protection in public settings.

But we are probably going to get it or have it. I have symptoms for it every time it rains and we have animals in the house so I keep a bit of congestion anyway. I am not gonna know unless I get it bad because if everytime I got a symptom I ran off to the clinic I would be there at least once every couple of weeks.

I will leave this here for you to read and its from WND not a left wing magazine :)

 
I’m with you in spirit but mask to actually help. And the main reason they don’t work is because it’s impossible to get everybody to wear them in in a country like ours we shouldn’t be trying to force people to wear them. You do yourself a better credit to realize that mask do work but the way we apply them doesn’t work very well. And they’re not so great that they need to be forced on people.

In the end it’s such a minor inconvenience I just don’t think this is the one I go to the Matt over fighting about. The shut downs as what we should go to the matt over
 
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100 people 10 without masks

hypothetical so no need to point out the obvious. 10 people get covid and carry it home. Average family of 4. So those ten give it to 30 others and now 40 people out of 100 have it even though 90 wore a masks religiously in public. Worse case hypothetical.

But before mask mandate, it was more like 100 people 80 without masks. So the spread should have been far greater, right?

And then when masks were introduced and it went from 80 without masks to 10 without masks.....if masks stopped the spread, then what would LOGICALLY happen to the spread?
 
Mask wearing is such a facade. It's fudged everywhere by everyone. Yes, everyone. I don't believe there is a single individual who hasn't "messed-up" here or there, and what is this crap about wearing a mask while entering a restaurant but once you sit down, you can take it off. Cough or sneeze - no biggie. I even saw a kid wearing a mask and slide it to his chin to sneeze. It's all bogus and one-sided. Seems everyone forgets the hand-washing. Social distancing is a farce as well. We only social distance when standing in a line. But once you walk around we even bump into people. I don't see people do a serpentine dance to get out of the way of folks in grocery stores or restaurants.

The fact is this: We have Covid. It'll be around of a long time to come thanks to democrats attempt to kill American and behead Trump from office.
 
Mask wearing is such a facade. It's fudged everywhere by everyone. Yes, everyone. I don't believe there is a single individual who hasn't "messed-up" here or there, and what is this crap about wearing a mask while entering a restaurant but once you sit down, you can take it off. Cough or sneeze - no biggie. I even saw a kid wearing a mask and slide it to his chin to sneeze. It's all bogus and one-sided. Seems everyone forgets the hand-washing. Social distancing is a farce as well. We only social distance when standing in a line. But once you walk around we even bump into people. I don't see people do a serpentine dance to get out of the way of folks in grocery stores or restaurants.

The fact is this: We have Covid. It'll be around of a long time to come thanks to democrats attempt to kill American and behead Trump from office.
This is very accurate. We would do better just washing our hands and keeping our distance and staying home if we were sick. And maybe wear a mask if we are in large groups. But they don’t let me write the mandates.
 
all good man. Sorry that happened. That being said, Quite frankly, would wearing a mask have prevented it For certain? My suggestion here is that we have a bunch of evidence now that there is a high probability it wouldn’t have
Considering that it was a sleepover probably not. I attached an article in another response to this thread.

Even with masks it can build up over time in confined spaces like an apartment or room. 5 girls 1 already asymptomatic carrier. Two got it and two didn't all in the same environment of a small apartment.

Masks are not meant for long term exposure. They are meant for public places or maybe even temporary small get together in private homes among unrelated people. Once it crosses the threshold of your door for more than a few hours a mask isn't going to help at all.

My son was a bit mad at his sister because plans got canceled but I pointed out the get togethers and sleepovers he had gone to and they didn't wear masks either. Could have been him just as easily.

My wife works in retail and has had to have been exposed to someone. Its just numbers. But she wears a mask and shield. They sanitize after each patient.

This virus has so many ways around our defenses that mask mandates are never going to be 100% but I am still going to wear one to the store.

From march until Nov this house has escaped infection and my daughter did catch it in an environment that was mask free.

99% survival rate but I dont want to add to that 1%. Stats are fine until you become one of them :)
 
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99% under age 65.
94% over age 65.
But we must shut down the entire country.

You know what we "must" do? Keep our eyes open.

The lockdown is predicated on the hoax that masks stop covid.

They don't. I have ZERO problem with ANYONE wearing a mask if they think it helps them.

I have a massive problem when decisions like lockdowns are made based on the hoax that masks work. We know lockdowns DO kill people and DO lead to more covid cases and deaths.

Wear all the masks you want, but never require them and never lock down anything.
 
Just to be clear I oppose gubmint mandating masks and shutdowns. I do favor Walmart, Target, Kroger and Aldi being able to require masks to enter.
Absolutely reasonable. I’m against any mandate that forces people to do things against their will and less they’re passed into law like the seatbelt laws.
 
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