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Explain this chart to me

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Any dems want to take a stab at it?

I see two possibilities:

1 - There's been a massive increase in illegals trying to sneak into the US via the Southern border, which has resulted in a surge in apprehensions.

2 - The current administration is doing a much better job of policing the border than the Trump administration did.
 
Any dems want to take a stab at it?

I see two possibilities:

1 - There's been a massive increase in illegals trying to sneak into the US via the Southern border, which has resulted in a surge in apprehensions.

2 - The current administration is doing a much better job of policing the border than the Trump administration did.
I’ll help

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I see two possibilities:

1 - There's been a massive increase in illegals trying to sneak into the US via the Southern border, which has resulted in a surge in apprehensions.

2 - The current administration is doing a much better job of policing the border than the Trump administration did.
BTW, I'm totally fine with #2 being the truth. We MUST get the Southern border secure and stop the flow of illegals into the country I don't care WHO gets credit for that, as long as it happens.

But I'm curious how the dems would respond. If #2 is what is happening, that means Biden is putting what's best for America ahead of what's best for his politics.

I am fine with that. I wonder if the dems here are.
 
So you think that’s the problem? They’re just flippant about the issue?

I’ve said many times that illegal immigration and trans stuff are two key issues where the Democrats needlessly alienate voters. They could easily take a more centrist approach to both without losing many voters—certainly not more than they would otherwise be alienating.

Half the current GOP got elected by doing almost nothing except continually flogging these two issues that Democrats continue to serve them on a silver platter.
 
I’ve said many times that illegal immigration and trans stuff are two key issues where the Democrats needlessly alienate voters. They could easily take a more centrist approach to both without losing many voters—certainly not more than they would otherwise be alienating.
Roll back the clock 15 years and you could say the same thing about gay marriage. You know, back when obama, hillary and hiden opposed it?

This is what the left does: It adopts issues that most of America is opposed to, that support their politics. Then they beat the nation over the head with the issue till enough people give in on it just to get them to shut up about it.

This is also what leads to the talk of National Divorce.
 
So you think that’s the problem? They’re just flippant about the issue?
The dems are only interested in doing things they think will give them total control- it is criminal what joey is allowing to go on at our border- the sumbitch cannot be gone soon enough for me
 
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BTW, I'm totally fine with #2 being the truth. We MUST get the Southern border secure and stop the flow of illegals into the country I don't care WHO gets credit for that, as long as it happens.

But I'm curious how the dems would respond. If #2 is what is happening, that means Biden is putting what's best for America ahead of what's best for his politics.

I am fine with that. I wonder if the dems here are.
Not really putting what's best for America. By releasing them into the country, many without even being given a court date, that is 2 to 4 years into the future.
 
The chart shows the number of illegals caught, BUT says nothing about HOW Biden is releasing them into the country while Trump sent them packing.
I linked to a second chart of 'gotaways'. They are WAY up under Hiden.

I think this is intentional, there were fewer apprehensions under Trump cause the illegals knew they WOULD be apprehended under Trump. So they didn't try.

Under Hiden, they know it's an open door policy, so they flood the border.

Trump can apprehend 95% of the illegals, Hiden can apprehend 25%, and still have more apprehensions, so it 'looks' like Hiden is doing a better job of border control.

That's my guess. Would love to discuss with Hiden supporters, but they are acting like they don't see this thread.
 
I linked to a second chart of 'gotaways'. They are WAY up under Hiden.

I think this is intentional, there were fewer apprehensions under Trump cause the illegals knew they WOULD be apprehended under Trump. So they didn't try.

Under Hiden, they know it's an open door policy, so they flood the border.

Trump can apprehend 95% of the illegals, Hiden can apprehend 25%, and still have more apprehensions, so it 'looks' like Hiden is doing a better job of border control.

That's my guess. Would love to discuss with Hiden supporters, but they are acting like they don't see this thread.
Meanwhile fists shake at the sky over Ivanka getting “patents” from China.

We need better trolls.
 
You better get as many copyrights as they will give you when dealing with the ChiComms or they'll be duplicating your merch and selling it on Wish at a quarter the price the day after tomorrow.
Like that stops the counterfeit products…

Whole thing was a stupid leftist talking point
 
Like that stops the counterfeit products…

Whole thing was a stupid leftist talking point
It does and it doesn't

It depends on whether the government drops the hammer or not.

See in China you can have all the locks and alarm systems you want, that's not what keeps your house from being broken into.

You either pay bribes to government, or you pay the local ting to remove your house from the list of properties that can be legitimately burgled.

So it's not so much the piece of paper but who is holding it, and I assure you when the Chinese government decides to get gangster over something, bad things happen.
 
It does and it doesn't

It depends on whether the government drops the hammer or not.

See in China you can have all the locks and alarm systems you want, that's not what keeps your house from being broken into.

You either pay bribes to government, or you pay the local ting to remove your house from the list of properties that can be legitimately burgled.

So it's not so much the piece of paper but who is holding it, and I assure you when the Chinese government decides to get gangster over something, bad things happen.
I agree, but the Chinese gov't probably gives two craps about protecting a small American brand from being copied/counterfeited.
 
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The truly sad thing is, no dem here will post that these numbers prove that Hiden is doing a GOOD JOB on securing the border.

Because securing the border goes against their politics. So they can't make that claim.

That's why they are acting like they don't see this thread.
 
Frankly, us affluent Americans financially benefit from illegal immigration.

These people are exploited to a disgusting degree. Furthermore, the most economically vulnerable Americans (most are not Republican’s) are crushed by illegal immigration.

Even though we benefit- we know it’s a disgrace. Unlike the pre-Civil War Southern Democrats, even though we benefit from it - we are against illegal immigration!!!
 
Frankly, us affluent Americans financially benefit from illegal immigration.

These people are exploited to a disgusting degree. Furthermore, the most economically vulnerable Americans (most are not Republican’s) are crushed by illegal immigration.

Even though we benefit- we know it’s a disgrace. Unlike the pre-Civil War Southern Democrats, even though we benefit from it - we are against illegal immigration!!!
Very well said, Jim. And as we ALL know...lefties for damn sure do not care.
 
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