Just curious what thoughts are with him starting from day 1. I see other teams with freshmen starting and think if the guy can play it shouldn't matter what year he is. It's a big jump from high school to D1 football and not everyone can do it but coaches seem pretty confident in his abilities and he definitely fits the system.
Emory Jones starting?
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I'm of the belief that Felipe will show dramatic improvement because of proper coaching and be the starter
Tebow 6-3 235
Dak 6-2 238
Fitz 6-5 230
Jones 6-2 196 EE -- Not quite a perfect fit yet...
His Ht/Wt doesn't mean he can't get it done, but he is coming in a bit undersized for Mullen's prototype size at Spread QB.
Franks 6-5 227 rsSo - EE
Trask 6-5 239 rsSo - EE
Allen 6-3 200 rsFr
Jones 6-2 196 Fr
Sproles 6-2 212 rsSo W-O
The QB's, along with everyone else on the team, should benefit greatly from Mullen's 'year-round' conditioning program. The Nick Savage hire will make sure of it. By the O&B game, we should be seeing the first stages of the coming changes.
With new coaches and a different system, they all begin with the same chance to step up and take the job. It should be interesting to watch how it all shakes out this Spring/Summer/Fall. May the best men win the starting jobs, at every position, the way it should always be...
Dak 6-2 238
Fitz 6-5 230
Jones 6-2 196 EE -- Not quite a perfect fit yet...
His Ht/Wt doesn't mean he can't get it done, but he is coming in a bit undersized for Mullen's prototype size at Spread QB.
Franks 6-5 227 rsSo - EE
Trask 6-5 239 rsSo - EE
Allen 6-3 200 rsFr
Jones 6-2 196 Fr
Sproles 6-2 212 rsSo W-O
The QB's, along with everyone else on the team, should benefit greatly from Mullen's 'year-round' conditioning program. The Nick Savage hire will make sure of it. By the O&B game, we should be seeing the first stages of the coming changes.
With new coaches and a different system, they all begin with the same chance to step up and take the job. It should be interesting to watch how it all shakes out this Spring/Summer/Fall. May the best men win the starting jobs, at every position, the way it should always be...
Tebow 6-3 235
Dak 6-2 238
Fitz 6-5 230
Jones 6-2 196 EE -- Not quite a perfect fit yet...
His Ht/Wt doesn't mean he can't get it done, but he is coming in a bit undersized for Mullen's prototype size at Spread QB.
Franks 6-5 227 rsSo - EE
Trask 6-5 239 rsSo - EE
Allen 6-3 200 rsFr
Jones 6-2 196 Fr
Sproles 6-2 212 rsSo W-O
The QB's, along with everyone else on the team, should benefit greatly from Mullen's 'year-round' conditioning program. The Nick Savage hire will make sure of it. By the O&B game, we should be seeing the first stages of the coming changes.
With new coaches and a different system, they all begin with the same chance to step up and take the job. It should be interesting to watch how it all shakes out this Spring/Summer/Fall. May the best men win the starting jobs, at every position, the way it should always be...
Lol Jones is listed at 6’4” 179 lbs.
Where’d you get 6’2” 196?
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who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
Tebow 6-3 235
Dak 6-2 238
Fitz 6-5 230
Jones 6-2 196 EE -- Not quite a perfect fit yet...
His Ht/Wt doesn't mean he can't get it done, but he is coming in a bit undersized for Mullen's prototype size at Spread QB.
Franks 6-5 227 rsSo - EE
Trask 6-5 239 rsSo - EE
Allen 6-3 200 rsFr
Jones 6-2 196 Fr
Sproles 6-2 212 rsSo W-O
The QB's, along with everyone else on the team, should benefit greatly from Mullen's 'year-round' conditioning program. The Nick Savage hire will make sure of it. By the O&B game, we should be seeing the first stages of the coming changes.
With new coaches and a different system, they all begin with the same chance to step up and take the job. It should be interesting to watch how it all shakes out this Spring/Summer/Fall. May the best men win the starting jobs, at every position, the way it should always be...
I'd like to see how Kyle Trask & Jake Allen will both do in Spring practice and if either/both will still have any lingering injury issues. In the passing game, they are both accurate, decisive quarterbacks. Allen has the history of winning state titles in Florida. I would like to see how that trait will play out.
With Franks, he has been a very durable quarterback. At times, Franks was able to make big passing plays and was able to survive last season. On the other hand, Franks has regressed to his true freshmen form in making too many mistakes/turnovers when he tries to do either too much or is unaware of things around him that result in turnovers. That cannot keep happening when you are trying to win games.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/news/_/id/210346/emory-jones
Finally, isn't Emory Jones listed as 6'3 196 in some other sites? Nevertheless, we'll soon learn more about Jones' abilities in this upcoming UF Spring practices. Jones should excel in the read-option offense. The quality of Jones' passing ability should determine how high he will go up in the quarterback depth chart.
If one dominant QB doesn't emerge, there may be a situation next year where there may be a need for two quarterbacks to play next season; that could either be a good thing or a bad thing. Also, Kadarius Toney could be a factor at both slot wide-receiver and as a wildcat QB-option. However, I don't think that Toney can be an every down quarterback. Toney should just focus on being a better receiver.
247 Jones 6-2.5 195
Rivals Jones 6-4 179
ESPN Jones 6-3 196
Franks was originally listed as 6-6, but now he's listed at 6-5. Did he shrink?
Trask was initially listed at 6-4, but now he's listed at 6-5, so he's grown.
Flip a coin, or just wait for him to be listed on the Gator's 'official' roster,,, and even then?
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Oregon’s Mario Cristobal is the only new coach aside from Mullen who signed a top-15 class Wednesday. Jimbo Fisher (Texas A&M), Chip Kelly (UCLA) and Willie Taggart (Florida State) all finished outside the top 25, according to the 247Sports Composite rankings. Of course, that's all still fluid until NSD in Feb, but there's no denying that Mullen has done very well so far.
Mullen also already has 6 of the states Top 100 recruits, more than anyone except 10-2 Miami. “What we’re doing is finding guys that we think fit our program, both with their character, their work ethic and their talent," Mullen said.
~ Stars and recruit rankings by outsiders don't come into this...
Rivals Jones 6-4 179
ESPN Jones 6-3 196
Franks was originally listed as 6-6, but now he's listed at 6-5. Did he shrink?
Trask was initially listed at 6-4, but now he's listed at 6-5, so he's grown.
Flip a coin, or just wait for him to be listed on the Gator's 'official' roster,,, and even then?
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Oregon’s Mario Cristobal is the only new coach aside from Mullen who signed a top-15 class Wednesday. Jimbo Fisher (Texas A&M), Chip Kelly (UCLA) and Willie Taggart (Florida State) all finished outside the top 25, according to the 247Sports Composite rankings. Of course, that's all still fluid until NSD in Feb, but there's no denying that Mullen has done very well so far.
Mullen also already has 6 of the states Top 100 recruits, more than anyone except 10-2 Miami. “What we’re doing is finding guys that we think fit our program, both with their character, their work ethic and their talent," Mullen said.
~ Stars and recruit rankings by outsiders don't come into this...
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247 Jones 6-2.5 195
Rivals Jones 6-4 179
ESPN Jones 6-3 196
Franks was originally listed as 6-6, but now he's listed at 6-5. Did he shrink?
Trask was initially listed at 6-4, but now he's listed at 6-5, so he's grown.
Flip a coin, or just wait for him to be listed on the Gator's 'official' roster,,, and even then?
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Oregon’s Mario Cristobal is the only new coach aside from Mullen who signed a top-15 class Wednesday. Jimbo Fisher (Texas A&M), Chip Kelly (UCLA) and Willie Taggart (Florida State) all finished outside the top 25, according to the 247Sports Composite rankings. Of course, that's all still fluid until NSD in Feb, but there's no denying that Mullen has done very well so far.
Mullen also already has 6 of the states Top 100 recruits, more than anyone except 10-2 Miami. “What we’re doing is finding guys that we think fit our program, both with their character, their work ethic and their talent," Mullen said. “What we’re doing is finding guys that we think fit our program, both with their character, their work ethic and their talent."
~ Stars and recruit rankings by outsiders don't come in this...
You went with the worst option possible simply to push your agenda.
Right now that agenda is “I’m going to support the current QBs because I still really want Trask to be the QB.”
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
I think there is hope for Franks. Didn't Mullen develop Tebow into one of the best college QB seen in these parts? Franks has the physical skills. He needs football smarts. I don't know if he is fixable, but we'll see. Remember, when Cam Newton was here briefly, he was god awful, but hadn't been developed.
We know Franks can run, he just needs better footwork, learn how to read defenses, and stop locking in on primary receivers.
I hope the new QB recruit is as good as advertised. I'm still disappointed in losing Corral. That kid looked like Johnny Football reincarnated.
We know Franks can run, he just needs better footwork, learn how to read defenses, and stop locking in on primary receivers.
I hope the new QB recruit is as good as advertised. I'm still disappointed in losing Corral. That kid looked like Johnny Football reincarnated.
Corral is nowhere near Johnny Football. Corral can't run like Manziel could. Not even close to be able to run like that.
It's possible. Leak, Fromm, Eason, Hurts are just a few guys off the top of my head that have started as true freshmen in the SEC. He will certainly get a chance
JMOHO, but Franks is likely toast. Mullen's offense is more difficult to read and operate than Mc-Nuss's was by a mile, and the mental part was Franks major problem. He's a decent kid, but just not the sharpest pencil in the box....
Losing Corral did not bother me, because they already had Allen:
QB-PP Matt Corral 6-2 196 Fr - Elite 11 Finalist - Cal Poly HS
QB-PP Jake Allen 6-3 200 rsFr - Elite 11 Finalist - STA, FL 7A Champ
Both were 'throw first' HS QB's. IMO, Matt's a little better runner, while Jake's a little better passer, so it's a wash. Neither have the kind of body it takes to be season long RB's in the SEC imo. (same for Emory right now)
Emory 6-3 190 (averaged) needs the training table to put a little more azz on him. His skill set is great for Dan's offense, IF he can pick it up and operate it. I'm just not sure that he could take a season long SEC-D pounding and stay healthy???
I'm thinking that it's a Spring contest between Trask, Allen, & Jones.
I wish them all well in the coming competition. And IF Franks or anyone else can beat them out and WIN the job, then more power to um...
Did you look at his high school video? Looked like a true double threat to me.......
Nobody seemed to watch and evaluate either Trask or Allen's film, so why would they watch or evaluate Corral???
I have a feeling he will be starting by mid season probably. I don't see Franks getting his act together that well. Franks will probably improve some but still be sub-standard.
It's honestly tough to say. I wouldn't be shocked if he DID start right away.
Take a look at the carousel of the last "top prospects."
Will Grier, Felipe Franks, Jake Allen... Obviously more factors than just what happens on the field apply to this list. But nonetheless is relevant.
It'll be interesting to see what Emory can do.
He can ABSOLUTELY start...if he doesn't...doesn't mean that he won't be 'the guy' either. I'll wait and see but the kid has skills and I like our coach.
The fact that he is an EE helps a lot. My own personal preference is for them to sit a yr. Nvr reallys een a true freshman light it up. People will say Hurts this and hurts that. He sucked a$$ as a freshman if u watched the games. He had a couple that were above avg buthe was very meh. But, tbh if u have no one else who is worth a shit, then u start the guy. Looking forward to more competitive games with UF
There has been some throughout the years in the SEC that played decent as true freshman. Lately you also see quite a few true sophomores playing well that got the early experience under their belt.
Yeah the true sophomores or RS freshman is understandable. Even a true freshman that is an EE can have some success. I would nvr want a true freshamn who is only there in the fall startijg. Hell u may only be able to run 10 plays
You're mostly right but it depends on the offense too. QB's these days play in these spread offenses and then go to QB camps and are in 7-on-7 tournaments year round, a lot of those systems are plug and play which is kinda why you see freshman QB's playing more and more. In one of those pro style offenses though it would be a real struggle.
I would have took a competent true freshman over Driskel or the decision making we got from Franks this past season. I think Mullen could improve Franks some but I think he just doesn't have it upstairs to be a good QB. If he doesn't surprise us I would rather let the new QB get some experience. My prediction is Franks will start the season but get yanked mid-season.
I think oozie's observation regarding plug and play style offenses just might allow Franks to be a competent to good QB for Mullen.
The good news is that Mullen has a history of selecting and developing the right QB. So, no matter what he decides, it will probably be good for the Gators
We will have to see I guess. Franks has some open field speed but I don't know if how he runs will work good in Mullen's offense. I remember when Mullen had that one QB at Miss State who couldn't run well that offense was really struggling against half way decent defenses.
#05 QB-PP Feliepe' Franks 6-5 227 rsSo
P - 125 of 229. 54.6%, 9 TD's, 8 Ints, QBR 38.6 (#107 QB of 128)
R - 58 for 20 Yds -- (Long 79 yds vs aTm - Neg. Yds in 6 of 11 Gms)
Note: 1 long scramble on a season doesn't make you a running QB.
#92 QB-PP Kyle Trask 6-5 239 rsSo
#23 QB-PP Jake Allen 6-3 199 rsFr
#4 QB-DT Emory Jones 6-3 190 Fr - (Ht/Wt Averaged)
W-O QB Nick Sproles 6-2 211 rsSo
247 - Jones 6-2.5 195
Rivals - Jones 6-4 179
ESPN - Jones 6-3 196
The so-called x-sputs vary by 1.5 inches and 17 pounds, so take your pick, or your own W-a-G.
Just like with their star ratings, the recruits Ht/Wt numbers are guess-tamates, at best. So maybe the O&B weigh-in will be accurate, but I wouldn't even bet on that one...
P - 125 of 229. 54.6%, 9 TD's, 8 Ints, QBR 38.6 (#107 QB of 128)
R - 58 for 20 Yds -- (Long 79 yds vs aTm - Neg. Yds in 6 of 11 Gms)
Note: 1 long scramble on a season doesn't make you a running QB.
#92 QB-PP Kyle Trask 6-5 239 rsSo
#23 QB-PP Jake Allen 6-3 199 rsFr
#4 QB-DT Emory Jones 6-3 190 Fr - (Ht/Wt Averaged)
W-O QB Nick Sproles 6-2 211 rsSo
247 - Jones 6-2.5 195
Rivals - Jones 6-4 179
ESPN - Jones 6-3 196
The so-called x-sputs vary by 1.5 inches and 17 pounds, so take your pick, or your own W-a-G.
Just like with their star ratings, the recruits Ht/Wt numbers are guess-tamates, at best. So maybe the O&B weigh-in will be accurate, but I wouldn't even bet on that one...
