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bradleygator, how did that Acosta press conference work out for you?

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I checked in on Twitter and the liberals were outraged so I take it was another massive fail for you guys?

Incredible how you guys always let the MSM build you up, then get the rug pulled out from under you, then hate TRUMP and not the media that lied to you. Sheep to the end LOL
 
Why what did he say. I don’t watch press conferences, just like I don’t read press releases. I evaluate people based on their actions and the soundness of their decision making, and I generally give people credit for good results and hold them accountable for bad. As far as Acosta, the plea deal he negotiated speaks for itself. I did read that he was trying to blame the state and local prosecutors, saying essentially that he had to give him the ridiculously lenient (and it turns out illegal) plea deal and non prosecution agreement because the locals didn’t want him jailed at all. Which, as a lawyer, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. If he didn’t like what the locals were doing he could have prosecuted and tried Epstein himself.

At best, he was just hooking up his former partners at Kirkland and Ellis by giving a ridiculously lenient sentence to a serial child rapist. At worst, he was helping facilitate a cover up. Either way, he deserves the heat he’s getting and will continue to get.
 
Acosta stepped in to try and right a wrong in 08' (clearly during Obama's admin) but gets grilled because they hope to tie Trump into abetting a crime?

If that's your takeaway from Acosta's handling of the plea deal you're as poorly educated on the criminal legal system as OP. Was part of his trying to "right a wrong" not informing any of the victims (I believe there were at least a couple dozen) of the terms of the agreement, as he was required by law to do (and which was ruled illegal by a federal judge)?
 
It is shocking how naive/ignorant you guys are as to how things actually function in business, politics and in the legal system. Right a wrong? Lol! It's like having a conversation with my three kids (ages 4, 2 and 2).
 
It is shocking how naive/ignorant you guys are as to how things actually function in business, politics and in the legal system. Right a wrong? Lol! It's like having a conversation with my three kids (ages 4, 2 and 2).

Did you ever figure out who was FBI Director at this time? Who was #2 at the FBI? If the FBI investigated epstein? If so, what happened?

Why are you so scared of being educated on the topics you want to discuss? There are worse things in life than finding out you are wrong. Being willfully ignorant is one of them.
 
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My kids are certainly smarter than either of you two dweebs. Even at 4 and 2 years old, they know to ask the question "why"?

Do either of you know that the federal judge who ruled Epsein's plea agreement was illegal was a Bush, Jr. appointee?

And presumably you two, being blind, deaf and dumb cheerleaders for Republican talking points, would co-sign on anything out of the mouth of Republican Senator Ben Sasse, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Oversight subcommittee. Here are his thoughts on Acosta's plea deal, and his failure to notify Epstein's victims:

"Jeffrey Epstein is a monster and his victims deserve justice," Sasse said. "I'm relieved that the court agrees that it was wrong to hide this child rapist's pathetically soft deal from his victims, in violation of federal law. The fact that it's taken this long to get this far is heartbreaking and infuriating."
 
If that's your takeaway from Acosta's handling of the plea deal you're as poorly educated on the criminal legal system as OP. Was part of his trying to "right a wrong" not informing any of the victims (I believe there were at least a couple dozen) of the terms of the agreement, as he was required by law to do (and which was ruled illegal by a federal judge)?

Followup question: Why did it take the media attempting to link this to Trump for you to get upset? This has been around for over a decade, were you simply ignorant of it before this, or did you just not care and you only care now cause you think it will look bad for Trump?

Asking for the victims here.
 
Followup question: Why did it take the media attempting to link this to Trump for you to get upset? This has been around for over a decade, were you simply ignorant of it before this, or did you just not care and you only care now cause you think it will look bad for Trump?

Asking for the victims here.

I have thought the plea deal was a disgrace since I read the Miami Herald article on it back in January. I think Acosta should be fired, and if Trump keeps him he will deserve the heat he's going to get. I think there's a little bit of smoke there with Trump, because he is on the record as socializing with Epstein, and I thought it was curious at the time that Acosta would be appointed to a cabinet position with the Epstein plea deal in his background.

I'd probably put it at about 30-40 percent chance that Trump had some sort of criminal contact with Epstein's girls and probably about 10 percent that he's held accountable for it.

With Clinton, I'd say it's about 60-70 percent likely that he was involved with the girls and 30 to 40 percent likely that he's held accountable.

Reportedly, this was a huge blackmail operation for Epstein, with him hosting parties at his residences and planes with extremely wealthy and politically connected individuals, obviously including Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, who represented Epstein in Miami, and Prince Andrew who is in photos with one of the girls who credibly accused Epstein of forcing her into sex slavery. Epstein reportedly had all of his residences and his plane wired for video, so this has the potential to bring down some big, big names, if the will is there to really investigate it. That will be the question.

In this case, I think there's some chance that the truth (or at least a portion of it) will come out, because both political parties want to nail the Epstein associates from the other party. More likely, everyone will come to their senses and realize swinging the shit end of this stick around isn't good for anyone and try to wrap this up by sending Epstein to jail for a million years. What will be interesting is if he threatens to drop dime in exchange for leniency, which is what I presume got him his original sweetheart no prosecution deal.
 
I have thought the plea deal was a disgrace since I read the Miami Herald article on it back in January. I think Acosta should be fired, and if Trump keeps him he will deserve the heat he's going to get. I think there's a little bit of smoke there with Trump, because he is on the record as socializing with Epstein, and I thought it was curious at the time that Acosta would be appointed to a cabinet position with the Epstein plea deal in his background.

I'd probably put it at about 30-40 percent chance that Trump had some sort of criminal contact with Epstein's girls and probably about 10 percent that he's held accountable for it.

With Clinton, I'd say it's about 60-70 percent likely that he was involved with the girls and 30 to 40 percent likely that he's held accountable.

Reportedly, this was a huge blackmail operation for Epstein, with him hosting parties at his residences and planes with extremely wealthy and politically connected individuals, obviously including Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, who represented Epstein in Miami, and Prince Andrew who is in photos with one of the girls who credibly accused Epstein of forcing her into sex slavery. Epstein reportedly had all of his residences and his plane wired for video, so this has the potential to bring down some big, big names, if the will is there to really investigate it. That will be the question.

In this case, I think there's some chance that the truth (or at least a portion of it) will come out, because both political parties want to nail the Epstein associates from the other party. More likely, everyone will come to their senses and realize swinging the shit end of this stick around isn't good for anyone and try to wrap this up by sending Epstein to jail for a million years. What will be interesting is if he threatens to drop dime in exchange for leniency, which is what I presume got him his original sweetheart no prosecution deal.

So you always knew about it, just didn't care to gin up any faux outrage till the media tried to link it to Trump.

Figured as much.
 
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Why what did he say. I don’t watch press conferences, just like I don’t read press releases. I evaluate people based on their actions and the soundness of their decision making, and I generally give people credit for good results and hold them accountable for bad. As far as Acosta, the plea deal he negotiated speaks for itself. I did read that he was trying to blame the state and local prosecutors, saying essentially that he had to give him the ridiculously lenient (and it turns out illegal) plea deal and non prosecution agreement because the locals didn’t want him jailed at all. Which, as a lawyer, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. If he didn’t like what the locals were doing he could have prosecuted and tried Epstein himself.

At best, he was just hooking up his former partners at Kirkland and Ellis by giving a ridiculously lenient sentence to a serial child rapist. At worst, he was helping facilitate a cover up. Either way, he deserves the heat he’s getting and will continue to get.
Wow! You should be a big fan of Trump if you base your opinions on good results! His economic numbers are incredible and he has lowered unemployment numbers to historic lows. He has also tried to restore this Country’s ability to enforce existing laws.
 
Wow! You should be a big fan of Trump if you base your opinions on good results! His economic numbers are incredible and he has lowered unemployment numbers to historic lows. He has also tried to restore this Country’s ability to enforce existing laws.

I don't know about "incredible." That's a basically meaningless word and characteristic of the adjective-driven analysis favored by the intellectually lazy.

From what I have read, Trump has had some success reviving manufacturing and coal production, and I give him credit for the economic benefits associated with that.

I generally agree with his approach in using access to the American consumer market as leverage to attempt to negotiate more favorable trade terms, although I haven't seen anything that convincingly lays out how favorable (or unfavorable) the impact has been.

I discount unemployment numbers, just like I ignored them when Obama advocates were always yelling about them, because they only count participants in the labor market and so do not account for the fact that the labor market participation rate is the worst its been since the 70s (although it has improved slightly under Trump). I give him credit for improved wages and job openings.

I don't give him credit for the stock market, because anyone with a brain knows that's asset inflation driven by printed money, as it was under Obama since 2009.

Obviously on debt, Trump's been horrific.

Our biggest economic problem remains that too much of our "wealth" is entirely dependent on that asset inflation in the markets. While the money printing makes asset owners (i.e. the top 10 percent) appear wealthier, it also drives up prices across the board (health care, groceries, housing, college, etc...) and squeezes wage and salary earners. Trump hasn't done anything meaningful to address this fundamental problem (which has been accelerating since the end of the Bush, Sr. presidency), and so I think our economy remains fundamentally flawed. This will become evident when we have another 2009-style liquidity and credit crunch when collateral holders actually have to try to sell their assets for the prices at which they have them booked and there are no buyers. I expect the government will once again propose bailouts and the response will be close to civil war.
 
Rough time to be a liberal so I cut @bradleygator a bit of slack. President Trump is going to go down as the President that saved America and will get the 5th spot on Mount Rushmore.

Man-made climate change has been proven a hoax.

Illegals being rounded up like the criminals they are are booted out of the country by the millions.

Human trafficking arrests and convictions at an all-time high under Trump, after languishing under obama.

The economy is the strongest its ever been.

Law enforcement and the military are both prized and appreciated.

Everything the liberals hate is flourishing, everything they love is under attack.

What a time to be alive and to be a Proud American.
 
I have thought the plea deal was a disgrace since I read the Miami Herald article on it back in January. I think Acosta should be fired, and if Trump keeps him he will deserve the heat he's going to get. I think there's a little bit of smoke there with Trump, because he is on the record as socializing with Epstein, and I thought it was curious at the time that Acosta would be appointed to a cabinet position with the Epstein plea deal in his background.

I'd probably put it at about 30-40 percent chance that Trump had some sort of criminal contact with Epstein's girls and probably about 10 percent that he's held accountable for it.

With Clinton, I'd say it's about 60-70 percent likely that he was involved with the girls and 30 to 40 percent likely that he's held accountable.

Reportedly, this was a huge blackmail operation for Epstein, with him hosting parties at his residences and planes with extremely wealthy and politically connected individuals, obviously including Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, who represented Epstein in Miami, and Prince Andrew who is in photos with one of the girls who credibly accused Epstein of forcing her into sex slavery. Epstein reportedly had all of his residences and his plane wired for video, so this has the potential to bring down some big, big names, if the will is there to really investigate it. That will be the question.

In this case, I think there's some chance that the truth (or at least a portion of it) will come out, because both political parties want to nail the Epstein associates from the other party. More likely, everyone will come to their senses and realize swinging the shit end of this stick around isn't good for anyone and try to wrap this up by sending Epstein to jail for a million years. What will be interesting is if he threatens to drop dime in exchange for leniency, which is what I presume got him his original sweetheart no prosecution deal.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...volved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

#StableGenius
 
What is this supposed to establish?

Shockingly, you didn't click on the tweet and read the thread, where the answer is clearly explained to your question.

Just like you never googled to see who the FBI Director was at this time or who the #2 was at the FBI or if the FBI investigated epstein, or what the result of any investigation was.

Because you don't want to learn, you just want to have your worldview validated.
 
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Shockingly, you didn't click on the tweet and read the thread, where the answer is clearly explained to your question.

Just like you never googled to see who the FBI Director was at this time or who the #2 was at the FBI or if the FBI investigated epstein, or what the result of any investigation was.

Because you don't want to learn, you just want to have your worldview validated.

I clicked on the deposition transcript and read the bookmarked parts referencing Clinton and Trump. He testifies that, on the plane trip, he perceived Trump and Epstein to be friends. He also testified that he saw Clinton on 6 occasions and he never saw him around Epstein’s girls. Didn’t see any reference to that part of his testimony in the twitter thread you cite as a source.

Doesn’t it bother you to let strangers on the internet do your thinking for you?
 
I clicked on the deposition transcript and read the bookmarked parts referencing Clinton and Trump. He testifies that, on the plane trip, he perceived Trump and Epstein to be friends. He also testified that he saw Clinton on 6 occasions and he never saw him around Epstein’s girls. Didn’t see any reference to that part of his testimony in the twitter thread you cite as a source.

Doesn’t it bother you to let strangers on the internet do your thinking for you?

So you didn't read the thread and have no idea what it was about.

epstein's brother testified in court that he only saw Donald Trump one time in his life, and that was when Trump hitched a ride on epstein's plane.

The same Donald Trump that you've attempted to imply was lifelong buds with jeffrey epstein.

It bothers me that you let MSNBC form your opinions for you.
 
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So you didn't read the thread and have no idea what it was about.

epstein's brother testified in court that he only saw Donald Trump one time in his life, and that was when Trump hitched a ride on epstein's plane.

The same Donald Trump that you've attempted to imply was lifelong buds with jeffrey epstein.

It bothers me that you let MSNBC form your opinions for you.

Dude, I read the actual testimony. He said that Trump and Epstein appeared to be friends. As in: pre existing relationship. He states it several times. You don’t know about it because you don’t think for yourself and just cop opinions from other Trump kneecap suckers. Additionally he testified that he never saw Clinton with girls. Didn’t see that mentioned anywhere in your twitter thread.

I know you ultimately would like to have your opinions taken seriously. You will have to work harder in informing them.
 
Dude, I read the actual testimony. He said that Trump and Epstein appeared to be friends. As in: pre existing relationship. He states it several times. You don’t know about it because you don’t think for yourself and just cop opinions from other Trump kneecap suckers. Additionally he testified that he never saw Clinton with girls. Didn’t see that mentioned anywhere in your twitter thread.

I know you ultimately would like to have your opinions taken seriously. You will have to work harder in informing them.

You're confused: I don't have to make my case to you, because I know what's coming.

This isn't a debate over whether or not Florida can beat Georgia this year, this is about one of us knowing what they are talking and the other guy thinking this is about Trump because they heard Morning Joe say so.

I don't waste my time trying to convince sheep to wake up. It frustrates me and irritates the sheep.
 
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You're confused: I don't have to make my case to you, because I know what's coming.

This isn't a debate over whether or not Florida can beat Georgia this year, this is about one of us knowing what they are talking and the other guy thinking this is about Trump because they heard Morning Joe say so.

I don't waste my time trying to convince sheep to wake up. It frustrates me and irritates the sheep.

Ok, so you feel comfortable accepting poorly researched opinions from strangers on the internet as your thoughts, because you “know” what’s coming. So you don’t have to read or research anything yourself. No wonder you come off like such a moron.
 
Ok, so you feel comfortable accepting poorly researched opinions from strangers on the internet as your thoughts, because you “know” what’s coming. So you don’t have to read or research anything yourself. No wonder you come off like such a moron.

That was actual testimony in court from epstein's brother. It wasn't opinion, but you wouldn't know that because you didn't actually read it.

And I do know what's coming. Because unlike you, I have informed myself on these topics and I'm not relying on political activists disguised as 'journalists' to tell me how to think.

Why do you think Trump is so focused on stopping MS-13?

Why do you think Trump is so focused on securing the Southern border?

Why do you think human trafficking and sex trafficking arrests have spiked dramatically under Trump?

Why do you think Trump signed an EO (that I already linked to and you ignored) that focuses on seizing property from individuals involved in serious human rights crimes?

What other EOs has Trump signed that will become relevant later? Go back to the Kavanaugh hearings and Lindsay Graham's line of questioning.


All of this is coordinated. All of this is part of a larger plan.

#StableGenius When the truth comes out, you will agree with me that Trump is the greatest President we have ever had, and you will be embarrassed to tears at what you have posted here.

Not debating you, just telling you.
 
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The instant @bradleygator started hurling insults it was apparent he was out of defensive ammo. Another liberal stunt to deflect and ignore the truth. I thought you were a little more classy than that, sir.

They’re not insults. They accurately reflect my assessment of both you and Ghost’s intellect, or lack thereof.
 
So I would like you to elaborate on the EO and who you or your source believes the target(s) to be...I want a name(s)...then we can judge future prognostications ...btw I hope you are right.
 
@bradleygator did you hear this from your President Trump?

"Find out the people that went to that island"

Why would Trump be encouraging the media to dig into who went to epstein's island, if Trump went there?

I told you that you would end up being embarrassed to tears.

Hint: Trump knows who went there.

 
Not true! I think that people who recycle poorly researched and informed tweets, memes, opinions, etc... are dummies.
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