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America is too far gone... (Warning: Spiritual post)

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...to be saved by human intervention outside of God's will. Even if Trump wins, our nation is so divided, there isn't a condition within that framework that will unite us, R or D. Trump will sign bills that will help America while at the same time will only increase the hate. This will always keep us at a disconnect in our nation. The hate is irreparable. Only divine intervention can resolve America's, and the world's problems. God is so loving and so merciful AND so patient that He continues to call us to Himself, but we have prideful issues of ignoring His plea and hell-bent to resolve this sinful world on our own. The goal is to not just make our lives comfortable, but to live according to His will, seeking FIRST His Kingdom and Righteousness and EVERYTHING else will be added. Matthew 6:33. That is the message to mankind and the sole intent and purpose of life. Everything flows from that point.

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...to be saved by human intervention outside of God's will. Even if Trump wins, our nation is so divided, there isn't a condition within that framework that will unite us, R or D. Trump will sign bills that will help America while at the same time will only increase the hate. This will always keep us at a disconnect in our nation. The hate is irreparable. Only divine intervention can resolve America's, and the world's problems. God is so loving and so merciful AND so patient that He continues to call us to Himself, but we have prideful issues of ignoring His plea and hell-bent to resolve this sinful world on our own. The goal is to not just make our lives comfortable, but to live according to His will, seeking FIRST His Kingdom and Righteousness and EVERYTHING else will be added. Matthew 6:33. That is the message to mankind and the sole intent and purpose of life. Everything flows from that point.

Come on folks, don't be shy. Bring on your thoughts.
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I will comment. This is a time that we need FAITH. God has a plan....many times it is darkest right before the sun shines. We may be in line for revolution...maybe not. There is something that separates the 2 sides at conflict. GOOD and EVIL. THEY are EVIL. There is going to be a point in time that others fell as I do, that you cannot pretend to be these people's friends. I tolerate them...but they are NOT my friends.
 
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I will comment. This is a time that we need FAITH. God has a plan....many times it is darkest right before the sun shines. We may be in line for revolution...maybe not. There is something that separates the 2 sides at conflict. GOOD and EVIL. THEY are EVIL. There is going to be a point in time that others fell as I do, that you cannot pretend to be these people's friends. I tolerate them...but they are NOT my friends.
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They can't be reasoned with. What I feel God is about to do today, next week, month, year(s) will affect us all. We are taking Him out of His own work: Climate change is Godly change, not man-made. Earth quakes ARE NOT from some human intervention. He's slowly turning up the heat with natural events, yet we want to say it's from us. That's how He is taken out of the picture. There simply is no reasoning with evil. Its intent is to kill and destroy any semblance of God. Human beings are representative of God. I wonder how man demons are walking around with human skin?
 
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They can't be reasoned with. What I feel God is about to do today, next week, month, year(s) will affect us all. We are taking Him out of His own work: Climate change is Godly change, not man-made. Earth quakes ARE NOT from some human intervention. He's slowly turning up the heat with natural events, yet we want to say it's from us. That's how He is taken out of the picture. There simply is no reasoning with evil. Its intent is to kill and destroy any semblance of God. Human beings are representative of God. I wonder how man demons are walking around with human skin?
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Could not agree with you any more. They have become evil. They used to not be that way.
 
Capt Ron 1 said:
Could not agree with you any more. They have become evil. They used to not be that way.
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They didn't used to be in bed with people like soros and the WEF. Before, they were amateurs at corruption. In the last few decades they hooked up with professionals who have a global plan, and that took their corruption (and associated evil) to the next level.

What's super scary is dem voters just keep supporting it. Losing themselves in the process.
 
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...to be saved by human intervention outside of God's will. Even if Trump wins, our nation is so divided, there isn't a condition within that framework that will unite us, R or D. Trump will sign bills that will help America while at the same time will only increase the hate. This will always keep us at a disconnect in our nation. The hate is irreparable. Only divine intervention can resolve America's, and the world's problems. God is so loving and so merciful AND so patient that He continues to call us to Himself, but we have prideful issues of ignoring His plea and hell-bent to resolve this sinful world on our own. The goal is to not just make our lives comfortable, but to live according to His will, seeking FIRST His Kingdom and Righteousness and EVERYTHING else will be added. Matthew 6:33. That is the message to mankind and the sole intent and purpose of life. Everything flows from that point.

Come on folks, don't be shy. Bring on your thoughts.
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Kj I’ll say it a trillion times. Put your eyes and heart on Jesus ( if you believe) and you are under his grace, putting hope, trust, and faith in any politician will be anyone’s downfall
 
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I'm trying to wrap my head around how any so called person of faith condones and applauds socialism. God is the enemy of the state and opiate of the masses.
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Wow. That was a thread killer. 😂

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kjfreeze said:
...to be saved by human intervention outside of God's will. Even if Trump wins, our nation is so divided, there isn't a condition within that framework that will unite us, R or D. Trump will sign bills that will help America while at the same time will only increase the hate. This will always keep us at a disconnect in our nation. The hate is irreparable. Only divine intervention can resolve America's, and the world's problems. God is so loving and so merciful AND so patient that He continues to call us to Himself, but we have prideful issues of ignoring His plea and hell-bent to resolve this sinful world on our own. The goal is to not just make our lives comfortable, but to live according to His will, seeking FIRST His Kingdom and Righteousness and EVERYTHING else will be added. Matthew 6:33. That is the message to mankind and the sole intent and purpose of life. Everything flows from that point.

Come on folks, don't be shy. Bring on your thoughts.
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God should never bless America again and we are seeing what happens when God is removed from society. We are led by Godless infidels.
 
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Trump winning is just kicking the can down the road.

We need a President who can lead the nation. Reagan was the master but Clinton and the Bushes were decent.....at least compared to the last three.

Trump was the response to Obama and Pedo Joe was the response to Trump.

I don't think most Americans are so divided but a lot of forces are working to try to change that.
 
GatorTheo said:
Trump winning is just kicking the can down the road.

We need a President who can lead the nation. Reagan was the master but Clinton and the Bushes were decent.....at least compared to the last three.

Trump was the response to Obama and Pedo Joe was the response to Trump.

I don't think most Americans are so divided but a lot of forces are working to try to change that.
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Have you looked at the Democrat bench? Did you watch their debates? They are leftist lunatics, all of them tried to out commie the next. Then you have that leftist lunatic Gavin Nuisance who may be throwing his hat in the ring at some point this election or in the future. He's completely unhinged. I can't think of a SINGLE Democrat that is worthy of cleaning my toilets.:mad:
 
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Trump winning is just kicking the can down the road.

We need a President who can lead the nation.
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Do we need a leader or do we need to remove the corruption in DC?

This is reality: No one can lead the nation as long as it is as corrupt as it is. Ronald Reagan could be president today, and if he was trying to do what Trump was, the entire media, dem party and all the same forces that are against Trump, would be against Reagan.

And Reagan being as presidential as all get out would make zero difference.

The first guy through the gate always gets bloody. Trump is the first guy in our lifetimes that has taken on the corruption in our country head on. Even Reagan didn't do this. Reagan DID to a TON for the average American, and that's why he's so beloved.

But if he had gone full bore after DC like Trump has, they would have come after him just like the do Trump.

And I think some of the 'moderates' here would suddenly have a different opinion of Reagan as a result.

Trump's job is to blow up everything. The America First guy/gal that comes after him can rebuild the nation in the image of God and as our Founding Fathers intended. He or she will be the 'model president'.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Do we need a leader or do we need to remove the corruption in DC?

This is reality: No one can lead the nation as long as it is as corrupt as it is. Ronald Reagan could be president today, and if he was trying to do what Trump was, the entire media, dem party and all the same forces that are against Trump, would be against Reagan.

And Reagan being as presidential as all get out would make zero difference.

The first guy through the gate always gets bloody. Trump is the first guy in our lifetimes that has taken on the corruption in our country head on. Even Reagan didn't do this. Reagan DID to a TON for the average American, and that's why he's so beloved.

But if he had gone full bore after DC like Trump has, they would have come after him just like the do Trump.

And I think some of the 'moderates' here would suddenly have a different opinion of Reagan as a result.

Trump's job is to blow up everything. The America First guy/gal that comes after him can rebuild the nation in the image of God and as our Founding Fathers intended. He or she will be the 'model president'.
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Some little known facts........Even Reagan didn't have Congressional approval to get some good things done. He let his people do some very clandestine CIA operations to rid Central America of the communist threat. The left tried to derail it but ultimately failed. Politics have some strange bedfellows. The Medellin cartel indirectly helped. :D
 
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NavigatorII said:
Have you looked at the Democrat bench? Did you watch their debates? They are leftist lunatics, all of them tried to out commie the next. Then you have that leftist lunatic Gavin Nuisance who may be throwing his hat in the ring at some point this election or in the future. He's completely unhinged. I can't think of a SINGLE Democrat that is worthy of cleaning my toilets.:mad:
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Democrats in 2023 are anti-American. It's not OK to elect one. I'm just saying Trump isn't going to help our problem with division. If he's elected, while he may do a few great things, we will have widespread criminal behavior just like we did last time.
 
GatorTheo said:
Democrats in 2023 are anti-American. It's not OK to elect one. I'm just saying Trump isn't going to help our problem with division. If he's elected, while he may do a few great things, we will have widespread criminal behavior just like we did last time.
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Trump won't help with division. Fact. Nobody the GOP nominates will help division. Fact. I'd rather have someone who will fight back since it doesn't really matter who's in the GOP catbird seat. That's the difference.
 
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Democrats in 2023 are anti-American. It's not OK to elect one. I'm just saying Trump isn't going to help our problem with division.
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The division is coming from the people that don't like the fact that he wants to put them in jail.

You are an odd cat. First you want to focus on the gun and not the criminal, now you want Trump to stop going after criminals cause it's 'causing too much division'.

I mean we can go back to obama if you want. Criminals loved him, media did too, so less division.
 
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Trump won't help with division. Fact. Nobody the GOP nominates will help division. Fact. I'd rather have someone who will fight back since it doesn't really matter who's in the GOP catbird seat. That's the difference.
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I disagree. I think if we could put up someone willing to reach out to people (or at least not verbally attack them), it would be a positive thing. I don't think most Americans want to be so divided. It gets in the way of living our lives.

Of course, they would have a backbone too which seems kinda hard to come by.
 
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I disagree. I think if we could put up someone willing to reach out to people (or at least not verbally attack them), it would be a positive thing. I don't think most Americans want to be so divided. It gets in the way of living our lives.

Of course, they would have a backbone too which seems kinda hard to come by.
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*massive facepalm emoji needed here*

IOW you want a democrat. I don't even know if you realize that's what you are saying, but that's what you are saying.

Trump needs to retire, let a democrat run the country in peace.

No division then. Goodness.
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
The division is coming from the people that don't like the fact that he wants to put them in jail.

You are an odd cat. First you want to focus on the gun and not the criminal, now you want Trump to stop going after criminals cause it's 'causing too much division'.

I mean we can go back to obama if you want. Criminals loved him, media did too, so less division.
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1. You don't read very well.

2. Obama was an asswipe who started us down the road to division....or at least ramped it up more than any President in my memory.
 
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I have a lot of difficulty trying to make sense of your posts, I will give you that.
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You repeatedly say things like I don't want to address criminal behavior when I've been very clear about my view of criminals.

You either don't read well or your pro-gun agenda doesn't allow you to acknowledge that.....like....if i'm not pro-gun, I MUST be pro-criminal.
 
GatorTheo said:
I disagree. I think if we could put up someone willing to reach out to people (or at least not verbally attack them), it would be a positive thing. I don't think most Americans want to be so divided. It gets in the way of living our lives.

Of course, they would have a backbone too which seems kinda hard to come by.
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Who then? Haven't seen enough of the Romney/McCains/Kasich RINOs? DeSantis has potential but we thought George W Bush did too. We don't know him yet. We need someone who isn't a swamp rat who won't cave to the lunatics at the drop of a hat.

FTR I'm not saying Ron can't be that guy. But the leftards have already gone to war with him, so you know how that will go. No different than with Trump or Bush.
 
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You repeatedly say things like I don't want to address criminal behavior when I've been very clear about my view of criminals.

You either don't read well or your pro-gun agenda doesn't allow you to acknowledge that.....like....if i'm not pro-gun, I MUST be pro-criminal.
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You are just fine. You just have a blind spot when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. And I don't understand it.
 
GatorTheo said:
You repeatedly say things like I don't want to address criminal behavior when I've been very clear about my view of criminals.
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If it was a priority for you, it would be reflected in your post count.

99.9% of your posts on this topic are about guns. Gotta remove the guns.

The ONLY time you mention the criminal is when one of us ask you why you aren't mentioning the criminal.

I go by actions on this board, not words. Your actions tell me what your priority is. I read just fine.
 
NavigatorII said:
Who then? Haven't seen enough of the Romney/McCains/Kasich RINOs? DeSantis has potential but we thought George W Bush did too. We don't know him yet. We need someone who isn't a swamp rat who won't cave to the lunatics at the drop of a hat.

FTR I'm not saying Ron can't be that guy. But the leftards have already gone to war with him, so you know how that will go. No different than with Trump or Bush.
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Good question! DeSantis is the only one who I've noticed who has a decent combination of conservative ideas and political skills. I know there must be others who don't want the hassle of running for president.
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
If it was a priority for you, it would be reflected in your post count.

99.9% of your posts on this topic are about guns. Gotta remove the guns.

The ONLY time you mention the criminal is when one of us ask you why you aren't mentioning the criminal.

I go by actions on this board, not words. Your actions tell me what your priority is. I read just fine.
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Because I'm dealing with gun nuts here.

If I were dealing with libs, they would think I was a right wing extremist who favored cruel and unusual punishment.
 
GatorTheo said:
I think our gun culture (good guys and bad guys) is harming our way of life. If the 2nd amendment is allowing that to happen, it needs to change.
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Barring a constitutional convention (which will never happen), its not going to change until the mores of the sick and perverted populace change their predatory ways. And the mentally ill will continue to go down that road no matter how moral the rest of us become. Lead poisoning is a real deterrent, district attorneys are not.
 
NavigatorII said:
Barring a constitutional convention (which will never happen), its not going to change until the mores of the sick and perverted populace change their predatory ways. And the mentally ill will continue to go down that road no matter how moral the rest of us become. Lead poisoning is a real deterrent, district attorneys are not.
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It’s hard to change the constitution but it does happen.
 
GatorTheo said:
Because I'm dealing with gun nuts here.

If I were dealing with libs, they would think I was a right wing extremist who favored cruel and unusual punishment.
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Wait, so you basically are just trolling 'gun nuts' here, and you really agree with them that we need to focus on the criminals and not the guns?

So you are just arguing to be arguing? Goodness. Not a lot of things to do in Theoville, I guess?
 
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