Thoughts on this Florida team moving onto 2024......
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Gotcha. I had seen something about it earlier as I was leaving the house, sitting in the airport now with lousy internet
Yeah the story I read was definitely from a clemson site, he was referred to as "Younger brother of former Clemson star"
I'm assuming Will Shipley is headed to the NFL so of course they're trying to steal the younger Etienne.
QB-pp Graham Mertz is returning as a rsSr in 2024, (due to a lack of any NFL interest).
2023 - 8.1 Yds/Pass, 1.8 TD's/Gm, 2.8 Sacks/Gm (31), with a 5-6 W/L record. So Yeep-ppeeee....
Career - 63.7% for 8,308 yds, 7.3 Ave, 58 TD, 29 Ints (a 2 to 1 ratio), with 80 Sacks.
Since they want to make a Mertz/Tebow comparison on completions, how about this:
Tebow's UF career had 88 TD passes to 16 Ints, for a 5.5 to 1 Ratio....
As the player/recruit bail-outs continue....
WR Thai Chiaokhiao-Bowman joins WR Caleb Douglas to enter the transfer portal.
And it's JMOHO that CBN set Max up to fail with his game plays and play calling vs the criminoles, in order to prop up his 2nd xfer QB for the coming season. Makes me wonder if CBN is already working his exit strategy set up:
6-7 + 3-30 > 5-7 >> 4-8 >>> with a gigantic fired platinum parachute buy-out,,, while joining the previous 3 fired HC's in laughing all the way to the bank....
Looks to me like the Gator fan base is no longer getting what it pays for from Socialist-U....
Get Woke >>> Go Broke
Before anyone gets their panties in a wad just remember, this is nothing but a long time Gator fans speculations and opinions (frustrations). Everyone else if free to have their own speculations and opinions, agree or disagree or mix them up to suit yourself....
2023 - 8.1 Yds/Pass, 1.8 TD's/Gm, 2.8 Sacks/Gm (31), with a 5-6 W/L record. So Yeep-ppeeee....
Career - 63.7% for 8,308 yds, 7.3 Ave, 58 TD, 29 Ints (a 2 to 1 ratio), with 80 Sacks.
Since they want to make a Mertz/Tebow comparison on completions, how about this:
Tebow's UF career had 88 TD passes to 16 Ints, for a 5.5 to 1 Ratio....
As the player/recruit bail-outs continue....
WR Thai Chiaokhiao-Bowman joins WR Caleb Douglas to enter the transfer portal.
And it's JMOHO that CBN set Max up to fail with his game plays and play calling vs the criminoles, in order to prop up his 2nd xfer QB for the coming season. Makes me wonder if CBN is already working his exit strategy set up:
6-7 + 3-30 > 5-7 >> 4-8 >>> with a gigantic fired platinum parachute buy-out,,, while joining the previous 3 fired HC's in laughing all the way to the bank....
Looks to me like the Gator fan base is no longer getting what it pays for from Socialist-U....
Get Woke >>> Go Broke
Before anyone gets their panties in a wad just remember, this is nothing but a long time Gator fans speculations and opinions (frustrations). Everyone else if free to have their own speculations and opinions, agree or disagree or mix them up to suit yourself....
How anyone can look at this train wreck of a season and have a problem with mertz is beyond me. If you want td-to-interception ratio, how does 20 to 3 grab you?
RB is one of the positions I don't worry too much about. Don't want ETN gone of course - he's a dynamic runner. But he can't block and has publically said as much so it's not like he's perfect. And at this point in his career he should be able to.
Regardless, he's a long ball hitter type guy and we need him here.
Regardless, he's a long ball hitter type guy and we need him here.
When about half of your passes are thrown to receivers that are behind the LOS, you aren't going to throw as many Ints. Leading to a 5-6 W/L record, it doesn't grab me at all, it instead kicks me in my fan nutts....
Tebow throws 32 TD's while running for 23 more TD's in a season (55 TD's).
Trask threw for 4,283 with 43 TD''s to 8 Ints in just his Sr season.
So only having 20 passing TD's in a season is an embarrassment for this Gator fan....
Just like it's been a great thing getting rid of that 3rd and Grantham thingy....
Taking 31 sacks in just 11 games grabs you does it? Well, it grabbed Mertz repeatedly.
Is that all on the OL, with 2 OL coaches for the 1st time in UF football history, or does Billy's offensive 'schematic advantage' warm your heart???
But as the last 2 season have already proven, you also aren't going to win many games in the SEC (3-5 + 3-5 = 6-10).
They would have to admit they were wrong, and we know that aint happening. Mertz was the lone bright spot.
I want to make sure I understand. You think Napier intentionally set it up so Brown would be sacked 6 times, have -5 yards rushing, and only complete 9 passes just so he would look right about starting Mertz all season? Is that your assertion?
So Mertz had 31 sacks in 11 games so if Max had 6 in one game then he would be on a pace for 50-60 sacks? I agree Max was not prepared for FSU and any other backup wouldnt have been either. Out OL line is terrible so it was a NO win situation. Good luck to the kid to wherever he lands cause he seems smart and hopefully will play well somewhere.
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Comparing Mertz to Tebow and Trask? Tebow and Trask had solid O lines as well as having Percy, Rainey, Demps, along with loads of talent. Trask had Grimes, Toney, Pitts along with Pierce and Malik Davis.
I lost count of how many times @TEBOW TIME mentioned the offense averaging well over 30 points per game with Mertz as QB.
If both QB's were healthy during last weeks game, we would have seen the scoreboard light up at BHG.
I think we have a much better pass rush than any team you guys faced. The o line was line Swiss cheese for verse and Payton.
It was the worst O line performance I remember this season as far as guys literally coming through without hardly being even slowed down at all. I don't understand why he didn't roll the QB out on about all the passing plays once that was apparent.
Yep - should have gone to a lot of 3 and 1 step drops. Really a concern to me that Napier appears to stick to the game plan at all costs.
If they do beat Louisville I am curious to see how that defense would fare against Michigan. Michigan doesn't have a big running threat at QB so maybe they could hang in there. It's hard to picture FSU beating them or Georgia though.
If we beat Louisville, which I doubt we do, I don't see us beating any of the other 3. Our defense might be able to keep it close for a half but we just don't have the firepower on offense. We'd need a perfect game (turnovers, special teams TD, etc)
Pat Dooley asks some good questions.
gatorswire.usatoday.com
Dooley's Dozen: 12 questions Florida needs to answer this offseason
Here are the 12 most pressing questions for Florida’s football program after a third-straight losing campaign.
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Pat Dooley asks some good questions.
Dooley's Dozen: 12 questions Florida needs to answer this offseason
Here are the 12 most pressing questions for Florida’s football program after a third-straight losing campaign.
Lol... at the could this be 2006 again. That defense was really good. I agree no excuses for the schedule as Napier deserves to be canned if he comes out of the gate losing to either Miami or UCF. If Napier is 6-5 or worse prior to the @ FSU game we will have a new coach and AD.
Better than Georgia's? If both Travis and Mertz were healthy for last week's game, the end result would have been something like 38-31 or 45-40.
Hard to say but I don't remember GA having a guy breaking through that easily to the QB on most of the passing plays.
This has me curious though so I am going to see if the offensive plays only are out there and compare what was the deal with that in both games.
I disagree, we haven't let any team score more than 28 all yr. The QB wouldn't change how much we bullied the o line. You would have probably scored 21ish.
I do think our pass rush is better than Georgia's overall
Couldn't find the plays for the FSU game yet on my initial search but found the GA ones and this is what happened with Mertz on the 11 plays that would make you shake your head because someone on the O line gave hardly any resistance or a blitzer came through almost untouched.
1. He completed a pass to around the line of scrimmage
2. He burned them with a TD pass
3. He fumbled but we recovered the ball
4. He fumbled and Georgia recovered the ball
5. He was sacked
6. He completed a pass behind the line of scrimmage
7. Incomplete pass
8. Incomplete pass
9. He completed a pass a few yards beyond the line of scrimmage
10. He completed a pass 2 yards past the line of scrimmage on 4th and 3
11. He completed a longer pass to Pearsall about 17 yards past the line of scrimmage
1. He completed a pass to around the line of scrimmage
2. He burned them with a TD pass
3. He fumbled but we recovered the ball
4. He fumbled and Georgia recovered the ball
5. He was sacked
6. He completed a pass behind the line of scrimmage
7. Incomplete pass
8. Incomplete pass
9. He completed a pass a few yards beyond the line of scrimmage
10. He completed a pass 2 yards past the line of scrimmage on 4th and 3
11. He completed a longer pass to Pearsall about 17 yards past the line of scrimmage
Both your DE's are exceptional and the interior is good as well. Line is legit.
Truth is this year's team had no legit OT's - that's a fact. We had guards out there and it's just a mismatch almost every game.
The roster management might not have been avoidable but again that's not the biggest short term issue for me.
The challenge I have is that know things, we never adjusted the offensive plays to help out. I mean - play to your strengths is all - it's not rocket surgery lol.
DL Michai Boireau commits to Florida
Gators add a former commit back to their 2024 class
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We seriously worked that hard to keep a 3 star that backed off his commitment in play?DL Michai Boireau commits to Florida
Gators add a former commit back to their 2024 class
Lord have mercy.
The RT shouldn't be starting at a place like UF and Barber should be at RT where he is probably better suited to play imo.
"Toward the end of the season, Florida found immense success with the formula (wtf? 5 consecutive losses) as it moved the football with relative ease as Mertz officially settled in behind center. He saw an uptick in his arm’s usage, and therefore production, as a result."
Attempting to put the lipstick on a pig imo, on Mertz and even more so on CBN....
Finished 2022 going 2-3, then finished 2023 0-5, so making some real progress there...
From 6-6 with an ugly chump bowl loss (6-7) to LAC 12 OreSt, but don't worry about getting even a chump bowl to lose in 2023 (5-7)....
How far back do you need to go to find a season where the season long Gator's starting QB only had 20 passing TD's???
And since Graham's bosom-buddy Ricky was 'the only good receiver' on the team (while 2 more WR's just bailed out to the portal), it looks to be even less TD's in the coming season, because they've already established that tFr, or even a rsFr, can't play in the SEC under this system and coaching.
"Like acclaimed UF quarterback Tim Tebow's usage as a freshman, packages for Lagway are expected to get the uber-talented rookie's feet wet on the collegiate stage."
You know, just like they used Max Brown in those 2023 packages.... 🙄
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...tball-what-does-graham-mertz-return-mean-2024
Attempting to put the lipstick on a pig imo, on Mertz and even more so on CBN....
Finished 2022 going 2-3, then finished 2023 0-5, so making some real progress there...
From 6-6 with an ugly chump bowl loss (6-7) to LAC 12 OreSt, but don't worry about getting even a chump bowl to lose in 2023 (5-7)....
How far back do you need to go to find a season where the season long Gator's starting QB only had 20 passing TD's???
And since Graham's bosom-buddy Ricky was 'the only good receiver' on the team (while 2 more WR's just bailed out to the portal), it looks to be even less TD's in the coming season, because they've already established that tFr, or even a rsFr, can't play in the SEC under this system and coaching.
"Like acclaimed UF quarterback Tim Tebow's usage as a freshman, packages for Lagway are expected to get the uber-talented rookie's feet wet on the collegiate stage."
You know, just like they used Max Brown in those 2023 packages.... 🙄
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...tball-what-does-graham-mertz-return-mean-2024
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Local defender Kendall Jackson backs off Florida commitment
The Gators are back to 19 verbal commitments in their 2024 recruiting class
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Fat Drooley on a roll...
Florida was 94th in penalties and first in spitting.
Florida forced 7 TO's total on the season.
That was next-to-last in the country.
Florida was 94th in penalties and first in spitting.
Florida forced 7 TO's total on the season.
That was next-to-last in the country.
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"So here is the sardines and cat litter sandwich the Gators were fed last season: We’re going to change the stadium you love and your team will have its third straight losing record. And they still sold out nine games in two seasons of Napier."Pat Dooley asks some good questions.
Dooley's Dozen: 12 questions Florida needs to answer this offseason
Here are the 12 most pressing questions for Florida’s football program after a third-straight losing campaign.
What changes did they make to the stadium the past year?
Not looking good. I think jawjaw is tampering, but who cares right? Wild wild west.
Florida TE Andrew Savaiinaea to enter NCAA transfer portal
The 6-foot-3 tight end joined the Gators prior to the 2022 season
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The only tight ends I saw were Hanson, Boardingham Zanders, and Zipperer.Florida TE Andrew Savaiinaea to enter NCAA transfer portal
The 6-foot-3 tight end joined the Gators prior to the 2022 season
Anyone can feel free to orrect or add/subtract to the lists as needed.....
The 2024 QB Room,,, so far:
QB-pp Graham Mertz 6-3 215 rsSr
QB-pp Jack Miller III 6-3 210 rsJr
QB-dt Parker Leise 6-2 215 rsFr - WO
QB-dt D.J. Lagway 6-3 225 Fr
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Eligibility Ended and Departing:
DE Tyreik Norwood 6-3 240 rsSr
ILB Teradia Mitchell 6-2 245 rsSr
ILB Kenny Anyaehie 6-0 225 rsSr
S Ethan Wilson 6-1 195 Sr
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P Jacob Watkins 6-1 200 rsSr
P Ara Emerzian 6-3 200 Sr
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QB Micah Leon 6-5 220 Grad-Sr WO
TE Dante Zanders 6-5 245 rsSr
TE Keon Zipperer 6-1 240 Sr
WR Ricky Pearsall 6-1 190 Sr
WR Daniel Cross 6-0 180 rsSr
WR Eddie Battle 6-2 210 rsSr
RB Cam Carroll 6-0 230 rsSr - injured, so he might be eligible to return?
OL Lyndell Hudson II 6-5 325 rsSr
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Transfer Portal Out:
S Kamari Wilson (highest ranked recruit in 2022 class)
DT Will Norman 6-4 300 Fr
DT Keenan Landry 6-1 305 rsSo
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K Adam Mihalek 6-2 200 rsSo
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QB Max Brown 6-2 220 rsFr
WR Caleb Douglas 6-3 200 So
WR Thai Chiaokhiao-Bowman 6-0 200 So
TE Jonathan Odom 6-5 250 Jr
TE Andrew Savalinaea 6-3 270 rsFr
Post 2023 Gonzo Combined - 5 WR's 4 TE's, and a 'high potential' QB-dt....
(none of them were any good (Billy's recruiting mistakes) so they won't be missed, right?)
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The 2022 Portal In's and Out's before the 2023 season, 22 Out with 10 In.
The 2024 QB Room,,, so far:
QB-pp Graham Mertz 6-3 215 rsSr
QB-pp Jack Miller III 6-3 210 rsJr
QB-dt Parker Leise 6-2 215 rsFr - WO
QB-dt D.J. Lagway 6-3 225 Fr
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Eligibility Ended and Departing:
DE Tyreik Norwood 6-3 240 rsSr
ILB Teradia Mitchell 6-2 245 rsSr
ILB Kenny Anyaehie 6-0 225 rsSr
S Ethan Wilson 6-1 195 Sr
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P Jacob Watkins 6-1 200 rsSr
P Ara Emerzian 6-3 200 Sr
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QB Micah Leon 6-5 220 Grad-Sr WO
TE Dante Zanders 6-5 245 rsSr
TE Keon Zipperer 6-1 240 Sr
WR Ricky Pearsall 6-1 190 Sr
WR Daniel Cross 6-0 180 rsSr
WR Eddie Battle 6-2 210 rsSr
RB Cam Carroll 6-0 230 rsSr - injured, so he might be eligible to return?
OL Lyndell Hudson II 6-5 325 rsSr
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Transfer Portal Out:
S Kamari Wilson (highest ranked recruit in 2022 class)
DT Will Norman 6-4 300 Fr
DT Keenan Landry 6-1 305 rsSo
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K Adam Mihalek 6-2 200 rsSo
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QB Max Brown 6-2 220 rsFr
WR Caleb Douglas 6-3 200 So
WR Thai Chiaokhiao-Bowman 6-0 200 So
TE Jonathan Odom 6-5 250 Jr
TE Andrew Savalinaea 6-3 270 rsFr
Post 2023 Gonzo Combined - 5 WR's 4 TE's, and a 'high potential' QB-dt....
(none of them were any good (Billy's recruiting mistakes) so they won't be missed, right?)
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The 2022 Portal In's and Out's before the 2023 season, 22 Out with 10 In.
Interesting comparison between 2022 & 2023. Not encouraging at all about "The Process".
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Comparing statistics from years one and two under Billy Napier | GatorCountry.com
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Who? 😂Florida TE Andrew Savaiinaea to enter NCAA transfer portal
The 6-foot-3 tight end joined the Gators prior to the 2022 season
