This is why the GOP is no different than the Donkey...

[steffen91]

' "It's about 4:00 in the afternoon and I get a call from the president of FreedomWorks, Matt Kibbe, and I can hear the distress in his voice," Beck said. "[Kibbe said], 'Glenn, I've just been escorted out of my office by armed guards and told not to come back.'"



Kibbe added that he wasn't the only one forcefully escorted out, and that they had been hijacked, so to speak, by the "old guard" GOP establishment.



"There was a coup during the election, and it was powerful," Beck said. "They were trying to get rid of the libertarian, Tea Party-minded power players, and first and foremost on that hit list was Matt Kibbe and his allies. They didn't like the fact that FreedomWorks was cleaning house in the GOP…that they were targeting people like Orrin Hatch. It didn't sit well with the Karl Roves of the GOP world…" '

Beck said that shortly thereafter he got a call from the man inside FreedomWorks who had "ordered the hit," who explained how the whole situation was "really good" because now he was the face of FreedomWorks and people trust him.



"His face never saw the light of day on my program," Beck said. "I hung up the phone with him, the next day I called board members of FreedomWorks…and we said we support the libertarian voice, and if you allow this coup to sit, we're done and we'll expose it."



"It wasn't even a week later the board took a vote and decided to reinstate Matt Kibbe as president," Beck said. "All the libertarians that had been escorted out ? reinstated all of them, and then escorted the leader of this coup and his cronies out the door for good."



Beck spoke about the ramifications of the "coup" for the 2012 election, remarking: "So don't tell me, GOP and John Cornyn and everybody else, about how FreedomWorks hurt the election. You tied their hands during the last election."

And now, Beck said, "the exact same thing ? the same people really ? are doing this" within the Republican Party at large ? particularly in the United States Senate.



"Anyone in Congress or the Senate who associates with FreedomWorks, the Senate Conservatives Fund, the Tea Party, anybody, anybody is being targeted by the same class of establishment Republican progressives," Beck said. "They do not like it when you organize. They do not like it when you choose the candidates that you actually want."



Beck added that it's the same reason lawmakers are not truly pursuing the IRS' targeting of small government groups, because progressives on both sides "want that tool in place…to come after people like you." '

The old guard GOP is nothing more than Progressive Light..!

link

 

[GatorTheo]

The parties are the same because they're both made up of politicians (educated car salesmen). The parties are only different because they serve different special interest groups (along with serving themselves).

 

[Ghost of Spaceheater]

Why haven't the Republicans tried to do the thing that makes the most amount of sense with the shutdown & Obamacare? Why haven't they tried to remove all of the unilateral exemptions Obama made in the law--something has no legal authority to do?

Because the next time a Republican is in the White House they want that power for themselves.

 

[djegators]

Originally posted by Ghost of Spaceheater:
Why haven't the Republicans tried to do the thing that makes the most amount of sense with the shutdown & Obamacare? Why haven't they tried to remove all of the unilateral exemptions Obama made in the law--something has no legal authority to do?

Because the next time a Republican is in the White House they want that power for themselves.

I believe the sent a bill over to the Senate that did remove the exemptions. But overall I agree, the GOP establishment are not on board with any of this.

 

[Ghost of Spaceheater]

Originally posted by djegators:

Originally posted by Ghost of Spaceheater:
Why haven't the Republicans tried to do the thing that makes the most amount of sense with the shutdown & Obamacare? Why haven't they tried to remove all of the unilateral exemptions Obama made in the law--something has no legal authority to do?

Because the next time a Republican is in the White House they want that power for themselves.

I believe the sent a bill over to the Senate that did remove the exemptions. But overall I agree, the GOP establishment are not on board with any of this.

Negative.

Read the linked article:

Beck added that it's the same reason lawmakers are not truly pursuing the IRS' targeting of small government groups, because progressives on both sides "want that tool in place…to come after people like you."

 

[djegators]

But the House did submit a bill to the Senate that would have removed the Obamacare exemptions....


WASHINGTON, D.C. ? This evening the U.S. House
of Representatives passed a Continuing Resolution to keep the federal
government open, while delaying the implementation of Obamacare for one
year. The CR also included language provided by Congressman Michael
McCaul (R-TX) that would strip out any and all exemptions from Obamacare
for members of Congress, their staff and the Executive Branch including
the President, Vice President and Cabinet members

 

[Ghost of Spaceheater]

Originally posted by djegators:
But the House did submit a bill to the Senate that would have removed the Obamacare exemptions....


WASHINGTON, D.C. ? This evening the U.S. House
of Representatives passed a Continuing Resolution to keep the federal
government open, while delaying the implementation of Obamacare for one
year. The CR also included language provided by Congressman Michael
McCaul (R-TX) that would strip out any and all exemptions from Obamacare
for members of Congress, their staff and the Executive Branch including
the President, Vice President and Cabinet members

Some exemptions but not all by far.

But not big business.

Did you notice that?

Ask yourself why.

 

[djegators]

Originally posted by Ghost of Spaceheater:

Originally posted by djegators:
But the House did submit a bill to the Senate that would have removed the Obamacare exemptions....


WASHINGTON, D.C. ? This evening the U.S. House
of Representatives passed a Continuing Resolution to keep the federal
government open, while delaying the implementation of Obamacare for one
year. The CR also included language provided by Congressman Michael
McCaul (R-TX) that would strip out any and all exemptions from Obamacare
for members of Congress, their staff and the Executive Branch including
the President, Vice President and Cabinet members

Some exemptions but not all by far.

But not big business.

Did you notice that?

Ask yourself why.

AGAIN, not disagreeing with the larger point....

 

[steffen91]

The GOP establishment (a.k.a. the old guard) is scared of the Tea Party and Freedomworks and all the folks that subscribe to their mantra of limited government, fiscal responsibility and individual liberty because it undermines its power structure. Guys like Cruz and Lee are flies in the ointment.

As a point of note, Boehner is a travesty himself. Has anyone head of what he's doing to constitutionalists Republicans in the house? Talk about a witch hunt...

I posted many years ago that the Dem party has been hijacked by the radical left and the commies. The Republican party is now to the left of the 80's Democrats. The course each party has chosen is the same. Big, centralized and oppressive government. That does not work out well for joe six-pack...

 

[BigOleNastyGator]

Originally posted by GatorTheo:
The parties are the same because they're both made up of politicians (educated car salesmen). The parties are only different because they serve different special interest groups (along with serving themselves).

You have finally made sense, I've been waiting for it forever.

 

[Gator Bait96]

Originally posted by GatorTheo:
The parties are the same because they're both made up of politicians (educated car salesmen). The parties are only different because they serve different special interest groups (along with serving themselves).

i agree

 

[NITTI]

Originally posted by Ghost of Spaceheater:
Why haven't the Republicans tried to do the thing that makes the most amount of sense with the shutdown & Obamacare? Why haven't they tried to remove all of the unilateral exemptions Obama made in the law--something has no legal authority to do?

Because the next time a Republican is in the White House they want that power for themselves.

sad but true.

 

[sg0508]

If you watched Election Night coverage, the democrats won because of one poll that was released that night:

"Do Obama's/Romney's policies help the rich, middle class or the poor?" (paraphrased). More than half the respondents said that Romney's favored the rich and more than 2/3 said that Obama's help the middle class and/or the poor. Now, the reality is that nobody's policies help the middle class, but that's what the democrats were able to successfully sell and it won them another term.

While I think Romney's smirk and his demeanor mimicked the "Wall St. executive" stereotype that I can't stand, I respect him for one thing. He made it pretty damn clear during the campaign that the middle class cannot be helped and I agree with that. The middle class is dying and there is nothing Washington can do about it. Thus, he didn't spend a lot of time bulls..tting everyone on how he can help it. In fact, his attitude seemed to be more of, "either figure out a way to move up with the chips stacked against you, or eventually, you're going to hand in your middle class card and there's nothing neither I or anyone else can do for you as your standard of living declines...Those with the money make the rules, like it or not".

That I do respect. Of course, "gaffes" like that clearly cost him the race in November.

This post was edited on 10/20 5:04 PM by sg0508