Why does the internet think Napier is a home run?

[Dannygator1989]

I'm not against it, I'm just confused.

Everything I see is that this a great hire and he's going to build the program the right way.

I will say that I'm impressed that he's had 3 straight 10 win seasons at Lafayette and they've never had a single 10 win season in their entire history, but....idk, it just seems off how the "insiders" are lauding it.

Someone fill me in? Because I remember when I lived in New Orleans last year the radio shows all loved him and really thought that he would take the LSU job when Orgeron was inevitably fired.

 

[Gator Fever]

I'm not against it, I'm just confused.

Everything I see is that this a great hire and he's going to build the program the right way.

I will say that I'm impressed that he's had 3 straight 10 win seasons at Lafayette and they've never had a single 10 win season in their entire history, but....idk, it just seems off how the "insiders" are lauding it.

Someone fill me in? Because I remember when I lived in New Orleans last year the radio shows all loved him and really thought that he would take the LSU job when Orgeron was inevitably fired.

Maybe because he turned those other teams down after last season and supposedly wants certain things to do with recruiting and the rest to be agreed to as far as having control before he will take the job. At least that is what I have seen out there.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Maybe because he turned those other teams down after last season and supposedly wants certain things to do with recruiting and the rest to be agreed to as far as having control before he will take the job. At least that is what I have seen out there.

Sure, I've heard that too. And I'm cool with that. I think that was the whole thing about Auburn last year (and Auburn was never going to give up that kind of power, they're some serious meddlers).

id just like to hear more about him that I'm obviously unaware of, outside of my time in Louisiana and hearing good things about him.

 

[bradleygator]

I'm not against it, I'm just confused.

Everything I see is that this a great hire and he's going to build the program the right way.

I will say that I'm impressed that he's had 3 straight 10 win seasons at Lafayette and they've never had a single 10 win season in their entire history, but....idk, it just seems off how the "insiders" are lauding it.

Someone fill me in? Because I remember when I lived in New Orleans last year the radio shows all loved him and really thought that he would take the LSU job when Orgeron was inevitably fired.

Yeah we’ll see what happens. He seems like a solid candidate. Who knows if he’ll be worth a damn. If he can hit the ground running recruiting, that will be a good start.

 

[Michi_Gator]

I'm not against it, I'm just confused.

Everything I see is that this a great hire and he's going to build the program the right way.

I will say that I'm impressed that he's had 3 straight 10 win seasons at Lafayette and they've never had a single 10 win season in their entire history, but....idk, it just seems off how the "insiders" are lauding it.

Someone fill me in? Because I remember when I lived in New Orleans last year the radio shows all loved him and really thought that he would take the LSU job when Orgeron was inevitably fired.

The guys on TOS would literally give him their first born to sign with us. And I am talking 90% of them.

When asked by a few of the skeptics why they think he is great, what is it that makes him a lock to be a great receuiter, the answer is always, “well, uh, um, he’s the man”

Bottom line, he worked for Saban is about all they got. They admit his offense is average, he does win but barely by much, almost all games close. There is really nothing there other than conjecture. Its very, very odd.

 

[Dannygator1989]

The guys on TOS would literally give him their first born to sign with us. And I am talking 90% of them.

When asked by a few of the skeptics why they think he is great, what is it that makes him a lock to be a great receuiter, the answer is always, “well, uh, um, he’s the man”

Bottom line, he worked for Saban is about all they got. They admit his offense is average, he does win but barely by much, almost all games close. There is really nothing there other than conjecture. Its very, very odd.

Okay well that's pretty much what I thought.

If his demands for control are met and it works out, then I would assume it's because what he wants to do is recruit and run the program and let coaches do their jobs.

I'm completely fine with that.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Based on the negotiations, Napier understands that you can’t win today without serious investments in staff, recruiting, and facilities. The days of wily genius play-caller HCs are over.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Okay well that's pretty much what I thought.

If his demands for control are met and it works out, then I would assume it's because what he wants to do is recruit and run the program and let coaches do their jobs.

I'm completely fine with that.

With this hire we are 100% on the same page (first time ever) in that I will gladly give it a shot, just very confused as to why he is talked about like we just hired Saban.

 

[Dannygator1989]

With this hire we are 100% on the same page (first time ever) in that I will gladly give it a shot, just very confused as to why he is talked about like we just hired Saban.

I mean I do apologize for our phone calls about Mac. I was at peak intoxication during those days and got conned by the opening press conference more than I'm comfortable with.

 

[PacoGator19]

I like Napier. There is some risk for sure but the ceiling is very high. He’s liked because he’s a big time recruiter that has asked for a recruiting budget & support staff that Bama, Clemson, UGA, etc are currently operating with. Apparently UF is finally going to get into the “recruiting arms race”. He’s a good coach that has built up a program and won 10 games 3 years in a row. He’s more of a CEO type guy. I’m more curious to see what kind of staff he puts together because that will tell me the most about him and this hire.
All the advanced metrics that guys like Will Miles get into and all that stuff really like Napier. Time will tell. I do like Napier more than Cristobal, Kiffin & some of the other names that were brought up. I do think recruiting is going to be very good and fun to follow again and if nothing else the roster is going to be stacked for the next guy if he doesn’t work out.

 

[Michi_Gator]

I like Napier. There is some risk for sure but the ceiling is very high. He’s liked because he’s a big time recruiter that has asked for a recruiting budget & support staff that Bama, Clemson, UGA, etc are currently operating with. Apparently UF is finally going to get into the “recruiting arms race”. He’s a good coach that has built up a program and won 10 games 3 years in a row. He’s more of a CEO type guy. I’m more curious to see what kind of staff he puts together because that will tell me the most about him and this hire.
All the advanced metrics that guys like Will Miles get into and all that stuff really like Napier. Time will tell. I do like Napier more than Cristobal, Kiffin & some of the other names that were brought up. I do think recruiting is going to be very good and fun to follow again and if nothing else the roster is going to be stacked for the next guy if he doesn’t work out.

Looks like he wants the OK St or Houston DC.

Have seen Tom Herman as OC possibility.

Those seem like pretty solid starts

 

[PacoGator19]

Looks like he wants the OK St or Houston DC.

Have seen Tom Herman as OC possibility.

Those seem like pretty solid starts

I’ll believe it when I see it but Herman at OC and Belk or Knowles as DC would be “home run” type hires.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Looks like he wants the OK St or Houston DC.

Have seen Tom Herman as OC possibility.

Those seem like pretty solid starts

Unless Pruitt isn't allowed to coach, it makes zero sense that he wouldn't bring him in as DC/DB coach.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Unless Pruitt isn't allowed to coach, it makes zero sense that he wouldn't bring him in as DC/DB coach.

maybe he already checked and got a ‘no’ ?

But there is an actual article out there naming Knowles and Belk.

I mean I like your idea of a guy who knows the SEC.

 

[SwampLander]

He's young.

He WINS..

He is very good recruiter

He has experience on the O side of the ball

More of a CEO type who seems to understand the need for quality assistants

He played QB himself at Furman so can speak form a player's perspective

Seems affable and can relate to kids..

 

[Dannygator1989]

maybe he already checked and got a ‘no’ ?

But there is an actual article out there naming Knowles and Belk.

I mean I like your idea of a guy who knows the SEC.

I just know what I'm getting in Porkchop.

And since his family lives 10 minutes down the road from me and he played point guard for my best friend when they were in high school, I might be able to score some tickets.

Yes, I'm selfish.

 

[weaponx11]

Bad hire will be gone in 3 years just like the last 3 coaches. When is the last time anyone from the sunbelt went to the SEC and ran roughshod over it? The problem is Strickland. Couldn't talk his first two choices to come to Florida last time(not that they would've been any better) Then gives Mullen a three year extension and fires him a year later. Does that sound like a competent AD? Any other sector of business he would be gone. Add insult to injury you have the clone of Steve Spurrier just sitting there at Ole Miss. Amateur hour!

 

[Gator Fever]

Bad hire will be gone in 3 years just like the last 3 coaches. When is the last time anyone from the sunbelt went to the SEC and ran roughshod over it? The problem is Strickland. Couldn't talk his first two choices to come to Florida last time(not that they would've been any better) Then gives Mullen a three year extension and fires him a year later. Does that sound like a competent AD? Any other sector of business he would be gone. Add insult to injury you have the clone of Steve Spurrier just sitting there at Ole Miss. Amateur hour!

Mullen's buyout didn't go up with the extension. Meyer was from the Mountain West or some conference like that. I would have went after Kiffin but I think this was the 2nd best choice.

 

[superdawg51]

Solid hire considering the slim pickings. If he can recruit the gator program should rebound in 2-3 classes.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Bad hire will be gone in 3 years just like the last 3 coaches. When is the last time anyone from the sunbelt went to the SEC and ran roughshod over it? The problem is Strickland. Couldn't talk his first two choices to come to Florida last time(not that they would've been any better) Then gives Mullen a three year extension and fires him a year later. Does that sound like a competent AD? Any other sector of business he would be gone. Add insult to injury you have the clone of Steve Spurrier just sitting there at Ole Miss. Amateur hour!

Lane Kiffin should not be in the same sentence as Steve Spurrier other than they both wear visors.

If Lane Kiffin is a clone of anybody it is Dan Mullen. Firing Dan Mullen to hire Lane Kiffin is like divorcing a woman to jump into a committed relationship with her biticher, more whorish twin sister.

 

[PacoGator19]

The last Billy we hired seemed to work out ok! 😎

 

[weaponx11]

Lane Kiffin should not be in the same sentence as Steve Spurrier other than they both wear visors.

I don't know Kiffen is the kinda guy to beat you by 5 touchdowns and tell everybody how bad your team is while he's walking out the back door with that shyt eating grin. Sounds like Spurrier to me.

 

[Countygator1]

Bad hire will be gone in 3 years just like the last 3 coaches. When is the last time anyone from the sunbelt went to the SEC and ran roughshod over it? The problem is Strickland. Couldn't talk his first two choices to come to Florida last time(not that they would've been any better) Then gives Mullen a three year extension and fires him a year later. Does that sound like a competent AD? Any other sector of business he would be gone. Add insult to injury you have the clone of Steve Spurrier just sitting there at Ole Miss. Amateur hour!

Gator recruiting class is ugly right now, but oddly it's still ranked ahead of ole miss. If you were going to hire kiffin, then just keep Mullen.

 

[PacoGator19]

Kiffin an average recruiter and not a stable program builder. That is why he wasn’t under consideration. I think Kiffin is a good coach but didn’t want him at UF for the above reasons.

 

[weaponx11]

Gator recruiting class is ugly right now, but oddly it's still ranked ahead of ole miss. If you were going to hire kiffin, then just keep Mullen.

You don't think Kiffin could recruit Florida way better than Mississippi?

 

[rdgtr]

I don't know Kiffen is the kinda guy to beat you by 5 touchdowns and tell everybody how bad your team is while he's walking out the back door with that shyt eating grin. Sounds like Spurrier to me.

How many SEC titles had Kiffen won(as a head coach) or even PAC-12 titles?

Steve Spurrier is Mr SEC Conference titles!
SOS had won 6 SEC titles in 7 years!
Nobody has ever done that, not even Saban or Meyer!

 

[TennesseeGator]

I don't know Kiffen is the kinda guy to beat you by 5 touchdowns and tell everybody how bad your team is while he's walking out the back door with that shyt eating grin. Sounds like Spurrier to me.

He is too Mullenish to me. Check my edit on twins.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Kiffin an average recruiter and not a stable program builder. That is why he wasn’t under consideration. I think Kiffin is a good coach but didn’t want him at UF for the above reasons.

I still like Kiffin, but by the way it sounds our entire structure needs to be rebuilt, and I don’t see Kiffin having any interest in doing that. Now if in 4 years Napier has built the roster and internal structure and can’t win, thats when a guy like Kiffin could come in and win and maintain.

I also think Kiffin may not be as anxious to leave as we all believe. He has Arch likely coming in and if he goes 9-3 or 10-2 he gets raises. He has a pretty good gig

 

[PacoGator19]

You don't think Kiffin could recruit Florida way better than Mississippi?

Other coaches at Ole Miss have recruited better than Kiffin has at Ole Miss. He really doesn’t like it that much.

 

[PacoGator19]

I still like Kiffin, but by the way it sounds our entire structure needs to be rebuilt, and I don’t see Kiffin having any interest in doing that. Now if in 4 years Napier has built the roster and internal structure and can’t win, thats when a guy like Kiffin could come in and win and maintain.

I also think Kiffin may not be as anxious to leave as we all believe. He has Arch likely coming in and if he goes 9-3 or 10-2 he gets raises. He has a pretty good gig

I think Kiffin is a good coach. I’d prefer him as an OC though instead of a head coach. I don’t think he’s a long term solution type of guy and UF is looking to totally rebuild how we recruit and our recruiting support and the structure of the program. That isn’t in Kiffin’s wheelhouse

 

[Michi_Gator]

I think Kiffin is a good coach. I’d prefer him as an OC though instead of a head coach. I don’t think he’s a long term solution type of guy and UF is looking to totally rebuild how we recruit and our recruiting support and the structure of the program. That isn’t in Kiffin’s wheelhouse

I think recruiting has changed so much. Kirby is an average coach but has recruited to a point his team’s are elite. Saban is Saban. And even after losing yesterday, Ohio St has lost like 4-5 conference games in a decade, almost all in shit weather. Why, they recruit at a different level than all those other teams.

The game has become so much more about recruiting than anything else

 

[GordonGecko]

I am excited about the hire and looking forward to the new direction.

WELCOME TO GAINESVILLE COACH NAPIER!

 

[PacoGator19]

I think recruiting has changed so much. Kirby is an average coach but has recruited to a point his team’s are elite. Saban is Saban. And even after losing yesterday, Ohio St has lost like 4-5 conference games in a decade, almost all in shit weather. Why, they recruit at a different level than all those other teams.

The game has become so much more about recruiting than anything else

That’s where it is at right now. It’s great to have some good X’s and O’s guys in staff but if we are being truthful name me the last program/team to win a national title that wasn’t recruiting at a very high level. If you aren’t consistently recruiting in the top 10 you basically have no chance of winning a national title.

 

[weaponx11]

How many SEC titles had Kiffen won(as a head coach) or even PAC-12 titles?

Steve Spurrier is Mr SEC Conference titles!
SOS had won 6 SEC titles in 7 years!
Nobody has ever done that, not even Saban or Meyer!

You are correct. It would have been more accurate if I said he reminded me of a young Steve Spurrier. But I'm not comparing accomplishments anyway I'm talking strictly of play style and demeanor. If your happy with Napier great. I hope he succeeds and hope he makes it more than three years

 

[weaponx11]

He is too Mullenish to me. Check my edit on twins.

I'm probably alot than you I don't know what the hell twins is lol

 

[GatorNation79]

The last Billy we hired seemed to work out ok! 😎

I thought of Billy D when his name popped up on my browser as the UF new coach earlier today lol

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

What worked in the 1990s doesn’t work anymore. Dabo and Smart wouldn’t be top coaches in those days. But they are today because they know the modern game is about investing and building a machine, not about being a clever game day play caller.

 

[weaponx11]

Other coaches at Ole Miss have recruited better than Kiffin has at Ole Miss. He really doesn’t like it that much.

Well hopefully Napier will be the answer. I just have concerns with a coach trying to cut his with a big time program that's in the SEC. It has chewed up the last three coaches that were more experienced.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Well hopefully Napier will be the answer. I just have concerns with a coach trying to cut his with a big time program that's in the SEC. It has chewed up the last three coaches that were more experienced.

Many of us share that same fear. Not just the SEC but P5 all together. Norvell, Frost, Fuente, Chad Morris, Butch Jones, Jim McElwain, etc.

 

[PacoGator19]

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