Ukraine - we need 750 billion to rebuild...

Gator Fever

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Ukraine has just become nothing but a joke now and many people unlike their govts see just how crooked they are. We don't even know where the tens of billions we already gave them went to and that govt is crooked as hell. Russia has stomped them into the dirt in Eastern pro-Russia Ukraine and isn't going to let the West take that land while decimating their entire military infrastructure. All Zelensky has done is needlessly let his people suffer while putting out fake news items on the conflict every day. Also Ukraine has been doing nothing but shelling civilian targets in the East when they get a chance and still operate out of civilian buildings with people around there. The more I read about what led up to this invasion the more I think we need to tell Zelensky and his fellow crooks to screw off. It's a done deal regardless and I have a funny feeling western Europe will be rolling back a lot of their sanctions eventually since it's crushing them worse than Russia.
 

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Ukraine has just become nothing but a joke now and many people unlike their govts see just how crooked they are. We don't even know where the tens of billions we already gave them went to and that govt is crooked as hell. Russia has stomped them into the dirt in Eastern pro-Russia Ukraine and isn't going to let the West take that land while decimating their entire military infrastructure. All Zelensky has done is needlessly let his people suffer while putting out fake news items on the conflict every day. Also Ukraine has been doing nothing but shelling civilian targets in the East when they get a chance and still operate out of civilian buildings with people around there. The more I read about what led up to this invasion the more I think we need to tell Zelensky and his fellow crooks to screw off. It's a done deal regardless and I have a funny feeling western Europe will be rolling back a lot of their sanctions eventually since it's crushing them worse than Russia.
Bad part about it is, libs and many moderate dems still don’t understand what’s going on.

Also, I almost didn’t open this because your Avatar looks so close to someone elses. 😉
 
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Bad part about is, libs and many moderate dems still don’t understand what’s going on.

Also, I almost didn’t open this because your Avatar looks so close to someone elses. 😉

Yep it's sad people blindly just listen to their politicians many times. I see why our own crooks used Ukraine to launder payments to people.
 

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Ukraine has just become nothing but a joke now and many people unlike their govts see just how crooked they are. We don't even know where the tens of billions we already gave them went to and that govt is crooked as hell. Russia has stomped them into the dirt in Eastern pro-Russia Ukraine and isn't going to let the West take that land while decimating their entire military infrastructure. All Zelensky has done is needlessly let his people suffer while putting out fake news items on the conflict every day. Also Ukraine has been doing nothing but shelling civilian targets in the East when they get a chance and still operate out of civilian buildings with people around there. The more I read about what led up to this invasion the more I think we need to tell Zelensky and his fellow crooks to screw off. It's a done deal regardless and I have a funny feeling western Europe will be rolling back a lot of their sanctions eventually since it's crushing them worse than Russia.
Ukraine has played the US like a fiddle.
 

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These days on social media I instantly dismiss anyone sporting a Ukrainian flag 🇺🇦 or referring to 1/6 as an insurrection ...
Great minds think alike. I look at those as badges of being stupid...almost the same way I look at people wearing a mask when they are alone in their own car. And I also KNOW who they voted for.
 

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There are both left and right corrupt traitors in the swamp.
They all need to be hunted down and given the justice that they have earned.

Avoid foreign entanglements.
I feel sorry for the average Ukrainian citizens, but their Freedom is up to them, not to me/us.

And the Brandon/Russia corruption running through the Ukraine never ended when Hunter left, it just expanded and diversified to meet new opportunities.

Just like you'll never be able to track the last 40 Billion that Brandon + cronies stole from the American citizens bankroll to send as Foreign Military Aid to the Ukraine.....
 
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There are both left and right corrupt traitors in the swamp.
They all need to be hunted down and given the justice that they have earned.

Avoid foreign entanglements.
I feel sorry for the average Ukrainian citizens, but their Freedom is up to them, not to me/us.

And the Brandon/Russia corruption running through the Ukraine never ended with Hunter left, it just expanded and diversified to meet new opportunities.

Just like you'll never be able to track the last 40 Billion that Brandon + cronies stole from the American citizens bankroll to send as Foreign Military Aid to the Ukraine.....
There is no good guy here, both sides suck - i do feel for the collaterally damaged civilians on both sides, however.

Yet, i do not feel compelled to finance them or a war that is not ours. AND WE are not in a time of war, so FJB!!
 

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There is no good guy here, both sides suck - i do feel for the collaterally damaged civilians on both sides, however.

Yet, i do not feel compelled to finance them or a war that is not ours. AND WE are not in a time of war, so FJB!!
This^^. The effects of war on civilians are sad but it's not our fight. Below are my thoughts on our Congressional leaders.
 

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Brandon and his puppet master Socialist traitors refused to spend (waste in their opinion) 5 Billion on a southern wall to help protect the border from the millions of criminal illegal alien's invading army, of drug smuggling, human trafficking, and terrorist infiltrators...

However, they were quickly willing to spend 8X's (40-B), supposedly to help protect Ukraine's border, doing so without the consent of the Sovereign Citizens of America.... 😠 😡 😠

The Russia/Ukraine scam is continuing to steal $$$ from America's Sovereign Citizens, to line the pockets of the evil/corrupt Communists and Socialist....

Communist Russia and China are busy running a tag team on America, with the help of domestic socialist traitors. W-TF-UP, or get ready to put on the chains of tyrant's slavery.... (destroyed from within as projected)


“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

― Abraham Lincoln, the 1st Republican President.
 

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Brandon and his puppet master Socialist traitors refused to spend (waste in their opinion) 5 Billion on a southern wall to help protect the border from the millions of criminal illegal alien's invading army, of drug smuggling, human trafficking, and terrorist infiltrators...

However, they were quickly willing to spend 8X's (40-B), supposedly to help protect Ukraine's border, doing so without the consent of the Sovereign Citizens of America.... 😠 😡 😠

The Russia/Ukraine scam is continuing to steal $$$ from America's Sovereign Citizens, to line the pockets of the evil/corrupt Communists and Socialist....

Communist Russia and China are busy running a tag team on America, with the help of domestic socialist traitors. W-TF-UP, or get ready to put on the chains of tyrant's slavery.... (destroyed from within as projected)


“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

― Abraham Lincoln, the 1st Republican President.
We represent the old fat catfish sitting on the bottom and China isn't even tending their fishing pole because we hooked ourselves.
 
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Russian state energy giant Gazprom announced Wednesday that it "cannot guarantee good functioning of Nord Stream pipeline" to Germany, saying it's still as yet unclear and unknown whether a "critical" turbine engine would be returned from repair in Canada. This two days after Nord Stream halted natural gas flow on July 11 for scheduled maintenance - with all eyes to be on the July 22nd scheduled day that gas is supposed to come back online, or maybe not - based on the new Gazprom statement. Europe, and Germany in particular is on edge over fears Vladimir Putin plans to 'weaponize' the pipeline, using the maintenance as cover to halt gas to Germany indefinitely in retribution for the EU's far-reaching anti-Russia sanctions.
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Holy crap at the difference in EU natural gas prices compared to the US. These morons with their green energy nonsense have gave Russia so much leverage its not even funny. And to think the morons along with the incompetent Biden administration thought their social media war against Russia could actually help them achieve victory. If Russia is smart despite Canada supposedly allowing the turbines to be sent to them they will leverage this to get rid of a lot of the rest of the sanctions. They could literally bring Germany to their knees this upcoming winter with what they allowed to happen under their green energy nutty policies.