Trump Considering EO for NIL Payments

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

It continues to amaze me how Trump can play his haters like a fiddle.

He talks to Saban. Saban rightly tells him that NIL is out of control.

BTW, that's a position that almost ALL posters here agree with.

So Trump agrees to do something about it. He makes a statement that he's CONSIDERING an EO.

Suddenly EVERY TRUMP HATER is talking about NIL and how Trump can't do it.

Trump did something about it. He tricked all his haters into forcing the issue into the political circles where it was getting NO traction, and where it HAS to go in order to get something done about it.

It really is amazing to see the GOAT work.

 

[74gator]

I just want to make sure I’m understanding you correctly:

Are you actually ok with POTUS acting in an Unconstitutional manner to “save” something as trivial as college football? You are ok with the man sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution violating it to protect a game?

If those answers are truly yes, people like you are why this country is where we are. People like you are turning our leaders in to rulers. God help our Republic with people like you voting.

The Constitution must take precedence over any individual policy.

Where does the Constitution prohibit EOs again?

 

[LordofallSocks]

See below.

See below.

See below.

Neither of you asked me, but I will go ahead and tell you why I hate Trump. Simply put, in 1995 during a meeting to discuss contentious allegations Donald J Trump put his hand is my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger.

Full disclosure, during the 90’s and early 2000’s my aunt was the president of a NY chapter of the NAACP. They were meeting to discuss (or maybe even confront) Trump over allegations that all of you can already guess, yes both racial and sexual.

Most of you who like Trump will choose not to believe this anecdote but those who know Trump personally and have known him for 50 years are not surprised at all. But this is a well known story in my circle that I personally questioned my aunt about to get more details because I could not believe our family’s urban legend. And my aunt, a preacher’s wife, is not a liar and is much , much, MUCH more trustworthy than President Donald J Trump.

And this is the first time I’ve shared this story in an open forum or outside my circle of friends because 1) I just recently had a chance to question my aunt about it and 2) I knew what the reaction would be by Trump supporters both here and at work.

Believe it or not, it happened.

This is what we call anecdotal.

 

[gatorshady]

This is what we call anecdotal.

Of course and I said that.

This is also what we call in denial. Everyone around Trump knows his disdain for black people. The only people who refuse to believe are his supporters who understand that acknowledging his racism makes them have to confront theirs. And admit that the economy, national pride, owning the libs, anti-abortion or whatever issue is important to you are so important that you would support a racist as long as he agreed with your stance on the issue.

And that’s fine. Just say it. Your (and millions of others) votes already have.

This is why I haven’t broadcasted this anecdote. Still 100% true.

Btw, I fully support Trump stepping in to get NIL under control even though I believe it probably is outside the explicit powers granted to the executive branch under the constitution. But I’m ok with that, as long as it’s something I like. (See what I did there, and yes he’s still a racist.)

 

[LordofallSocks]

Of course and I said that.

This is also what we call in denial. Everyone around Trump knows his disdain for black people. The only people who refuse to believe are his supporters who understand that acknowledging his racism makes them have to confront theirs. And admit that the economy, national pride, owning the libs, anti-abortion or whatever issue is important to you are so important that you would support a racist as long as he agreed with your stance on the issue.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And that’s fine. Just say it. Your (and millions of others) votes already have.

This is why I haven’t broadcasted this anecdote. Still 100% true.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

p.s. 😂😂😂😂

 

[nothergator]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣



🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

p.s. 😂😂😂😂

Suppose we get an EO a congressional act concerning NIL enforcement of either one is going to be the problem.

 

[StevieBGator]

Where does the Constitution prohibit EOs again?

Here we go. SMH

What did you give us, Dr. Franklin?

“A Republic if you can keep it.”

This question is why we are losing it.

I think we’d all agree that college football is interstate commerce. The so-called Interstate Commerce Clause in Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3 expressly gives CONGRESS the authority to regulate interstate commerce.

Where in Article 2 does POTUS have this authority? He has the authority to propose legislation. He has the authority to have his Secretary of Commerce direct a study of the matter to aid in developing that proposed legislation. But he does not have the expressed power to address NIL directly with the stroke of a pen.

This is why we are losing our Republic. We have become so accustomed to the expansion and abuse of Executive Privilege by Presidents of both parties that it doesn’t even faze us anymore.

Power is invested BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE. Every single time we allow something like this we slowly give away our authority over Government. We are the frog in the pot slowly being brought to boil so it doesn’t realize before too late to jump out.

 

[74gator]

Here we go. SMH

What did you give us, Dr. Franklin?

“A Republic if you can keep it.”

This question is why we are losing it.

I think we’d all agree that college football is interstate commerce. The so-called Interstate Commerce Clause in Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3 expressly gives CONGRESS the authority to regulate interstate commerce.

Where in Article 2 does POTUS have this authority? He has the authority to propose legislation. He has the authority to have his Secretary of Commerce direct a study of the matter to aid in developing that proposed legislation. But he does not have the expressed power to address NIL directly with the stroke of a pen.

This is why we are losing our Republic. We have become so accustomed to the expansion and abuse of Executive Privilege by Presidents of both parties that it doesn’t even faze us anymore.

Power is invested BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE. Every single time we allow something like this we slowly give away our authority over Government. We are the frog in the pot slowly being brought to boil so it doesn’t realize before too late to jump out.

So you're opposed to ALL executive orders then?

 

[StevieBGator]

So you're opposed to ALL executive orders then?

Unless they are related to the expressed powers of POTUS or it relates to something giving prior precedent by SCOTUS or legislation.



I believe in the Constitution as written. Not the crap stained document we’ve allowed it become by asses being wiped with it.

 

[Coolgtr]

He literally called black people lazy…. He’s attacked DEI & civil rights… He’s banning books in an effort to erase black history… He doesn’t have a problem with white nationalist by calling them very fine people… But of course someone white wouldn’t see that as racism

You're an idiot and that's the nicest word I can use.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This is also what we call in denial. Everyone around Trump knows his disdain for black people. The only people who refuse to believe are his supporters who understand that acknowledging his racism makes them have to confront theirs.

Tim Tebow is one of Trump's biggest supporters.

You just called Tim Tebow a racist.

 

[gatorshady]

So what. I’m sure he didn’t call Tebow’s aunt a ***gger.

I like and respect Tebow. But he does not know everything and can only make decisions accordingly.

 

[HeartpumpOB]

I just want to make sure I’m understanding you correctly:

Are you actually ok with POTUS acting in an Unconstitutional manner to “save” something as trivial as college football? You are ok with the man sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution violating it to protect a game?

If those answers are truly yes, people like you are why this country is where we are. People like you are turning our leaders in to rulers. God help our Republic with people like you voting.

The Constitution must take precedence over any individual policy.

Im not suggesting anything like that. Wow, you go complete nuclear. Not everyone wants their prez to be a ruler. Only the liberals. I would love for Trump to step in with his influence, select a committee, hell, let Saban head it up, and help and push the ncaa to find an answer to the problem. They aren’t doing shit but setting on their hands hoping the problem goes away.

 

[gatorshady]

You're an idiot and that's the nicest word I can use.

So I’m sure you would call me a liar about the anecdote I shared earlier in this thread, brother.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

So what. I’m sure he didn’t call Tebow’s aunt a ***gger.

I like and respect Tebow. But he does not know everything and can only make decisions accordingly.

So I’m sure you would call me a liar about the anecdote I shared earlier in this thread, brother.

I think it's more about we just chuckle when supporters of the party that invented and supported the KKK for the last 150 years claims anyone else is racist.

Did you 'aunt' vote for obama? Biden? Hillary?

All three supported and eulogized former KKK members.

All three supported racists. All three acted as racists.

I suspect you voted for all three as well.

That's why no one takes you seriously. Stop supporting racists if you want that to change.

 

[Chrismartin1974]

He literally called black people lazy…. He’s attacked DEI & civil rights… He’s banning books in an effort to erase black history… He doesn’t have a problem with white nationalist by calling them very fine people… But of course someone white wouldn’t see that as racism

So much misinformation in your paragraph. He should attack DEI. There’s no place in society for it. Sounds like you’ve been watching too much CNN.

 

[gatorshady]

I think it's more about we just chuckle when supporters of the party that invented and supported the KKK for the last 150 years claims anyone else is racist.

Did you 'aunt' vote for obama? Biden? Hillary?

All three supported and eulogized former KKK members.

All three supported racists. All three acted as racists.

I suspect you voted for all three as well.

That's why no one takes you seriously. Stop supporting racists if you want that to change.

This is bullcrap! It’s partisan, ignorant, and off-topic.

My opinion of Donald Trump has absolutely nothing to do with party affiliation. Donald Trump is a racist and anyone who knows him knows he is a low character individual. He put his finger in my auntie’s face and called her a ***gger, and this is in line with many of his past actions and surprises no one (NO ONE) who knows him personally. That’s who he is. Republican, Democrat? Who the hell cares!

But I guess I know enough about you without ever meeting you to know you would respond with the immature “Your side has bigger racists than mine” retort. Simple-minded and predictable.

Again, Trump’s obvious character flaws don’t bother you. You love a racist as long as he pushes your agenda and fights against people you don’t like.

But I already knew that before I shared my aunt’s encounter with DJT.

And you don’t have to respond. You’ve offered nothing to broaden my horizons.

 

[michael morsillo]

This is bullcrap! It’s partisan, ignorant, and off-topic.

My opinion of Donald Trump has absolutely nothing to do with party affiliation. Donald Trump is a racist and anyone who knows him knows he is a low character individual. He put his finger in my auntie’s face and called her a ***gger, and this is in line with many of his past actions and surprises no one (NO ONE) who knows him personally. That’s who he is. Republican, Democrat? Who the hell cares!

But I guess I know enough about you without ever meeting you to know you would respond with the immature “Your side has bigger racists than mine” retort. Simple-minded and predictable.

Again, Trump’s obvious character flaws don’t bother you. You love a racist as long as he pushes your agenda and fights against people you don’t like.

But I already knew that before I shared my aunt’s encounter with DJT.

And you don’t have to respond. You’ve offered nothing to broaden my horizons.

 

[michael morsillo]

 

[michael morsillo]

 

[michael morsillo]

By the way, this is what still remaining on the Internet but so much has been scrubbed

All those meetings and award ceremonies with black business groups in New York and LA are impossible to find

I also personally watched the video of Hillary saying that Donald Trump would make a great president and that has not only been completely scrubbed: but there are leftist sites that claim it never happened

 

[gatorshady]

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MM, thanks for the videos and I appreciate you at least attempting to offer some honest debate even though I’m sure your mind, as most Trump supporters, is already made up and you have convinced yourself he is not a racist.

But President Donald Trump is a racist.

What is said on camera and what is said in private is completely different. Without naming names, my aunt runs in the same circles as Jessie Jackson and many others and they are 100% sure that DJT is a racist and have numerous stories to tell. Whatever, Racists have been in power here in America for most of its existence. My aunt ( and several other of my mother’s siblings) left the Jim Crow Florida Panhandle in the 50’s moving to NY to escape some of this. It is what it is.

I only shared my very reliable, Christian, preacher’s wife aunt’s unfortunate run in with our illustrious president to highlight personal experience to things we already knew. It’s only debatable on message boards.

But most voters are comfortable with it. Again, it is what it is.

 

[Gator Fever]

President Trump considering executive order to address payments to college athletes

Trump’s review of the matter comes in the wake of a conversation he had with former Alabama football coach Nick Saban earlier this week.

www.usatoday.com

There will never be any true leveling of the playing field when big boosters can do NIL deals with players. That deal that will let schools use up to like 20 million from revenues will make the lower level SEC and Big 10 teams more competitive money wise but you still have a scenario where your big boosters determine where you ultimately are with that.

 

[michael morsillo]

There will never be any true leveling of the playing field when big boosters can do NIL deals with players. That deal that will let schools use up to like 20 million from revenues will make the lower level SEC and Big 10 teams more competitive money wise but you still have a scenario where your big boosters determine where you ultimately are with that.

THIS^^^^

There’s ar least 30% of the people on here that are very, very funny (if they weren’t so annoying), when it comes to the insiders (who we are very lucky to have here): they have selective hearing/reading comprehension:
WHEN AN INSIDER POSTS SOMETHING THEY AGREE WITH THEY TREAT IT LIKE IT CAME FROM THE BURNING BUSH

HOWEVER, WHEN THE SAME INSIDER POSTS SOMETHING THAT THEY DON’T AGREE WITH THEY COMPLETELY 100% IGNORE IT

We have had several of our top insiders, including SR himself, basically tell us outright that the house settlement, (even if it passes, & doesn’t get overturned, which is a big IF)

“WILL ONLY RAISE THE FLOOR FOR EVERYBODY AND WILL DO ABSOLUTELY FREAKING NOTHING TO LIMIT OR STOP BOOSTER BASED BUSINESSES FROM FUNDING PRIVATE NIL DEALS WITH PLAYERS”

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Again, Trump’s obvious character flaws don’t bother you. You love a racist as long as he pushes your agenda and fights against people you don’t like.

If I wanted to support racists, I would just vote dem. Duh.

Liberals always try to project their bad behavior onto others.

You need to say we support a racist, so then it's 'ok' in your mind that you support one.

Why not just drop your support of a racist? But he has the all-powerful D next to his name, so I guess it's ok.

That's on you, brother. No one is forcing you to support racists.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

MM, thanks for the videos and I appreciate you at least attempting to offer some honest debate even though I’m sure your mind, as most Trump supporters, is already made up and you have convinced yourself he is not a racist.

But President Donald Trump is a racist.

What is said on camera and what is said in private is completely different.

Joe Biden went on camera and said a former KKK member was a wonderful person.

So did barack obama. So did Hillary Clinton.

Joe Biden said that Obama was a good candidate because unlike most blacks, he was 'clean and articulate'.

We have open and PUBLIC displays of the left being openly racist and celebrating open racists.

If Trump had done the same racist things Biden, Clinton and obama had done, there's no way I could support him.

Liberals are fine with their racists, cause they have the all-powerful D next to their names. It is what it is.

 

[gatorshady]

Joe Biden went on camera and said a former KKK member was a wonderful person.

So did barack obama. So did Hillary Clinton.

Joe Biden said that Obama was a good candidate because unlike most blacks, he was 'clean and articulate'.

We have open and PUBLIC displays of the left being openly racist and celebrating open racists.

If Trump had done the same racist things Biden, Clinton and obama had done, there's no way I could support him.

Liberals are fine with their racists, cause they have the all-powerful D next to their names. It is what it is.

More bullcrap! I’m not telling you that Trump supported racists. I’m telling you that Trump IS a racist, and that he actually put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger.

What does your post have to with anything I said? Stop practicing a wrote response for any liberal you encounter and cutting and pasting an idiotic response. I’m not that guy.

Trump has not done the same as the others. That’s bullshit. Biden, Obama, nor Clinton verbally and racially accosted any of my family members. And none of your family members either. Neither did Bush or Reagan. Stop making excuses for your support of this low character, racist president.

Or just own it.

 

[LordofallSocks]

More bullcrap! I’m not telling you that Trump supported racists. I’m telling you that Trump IS a racist, and that he actually put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger.

What does your post have to with anything I said? Stop practicing a wrote response for any liberal you encounter and cutting and pasting an idiotic response. I’m not that guy.

Trump has not done the same as the others. That’s bullshit. Biden, Obama, nor Clinton verbally and racially accosted any of my family members. And none of your family members either. Neither did Bush or Reagan. Stop making excuses for your support of this low character, racist president.

Or just own it.

Im going with shit that never happened for 500, Alex.

Your aunts a liar.

 

[gatorshady]

Im going with shit that never happened for 500, Alex.

Your aunts a liar.

And you’re an idiot jackass anonymously sitting behind a computer screen. And only someone who does not know him would find this surprising. I could discuss specifics about the meeting if we were in person but this is not the right forum for full disclosure.

Again, Trump did in fact in 1995 put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger. Their altercation has been whispered about in our family for 30 years. And her word is much more trustworthy than Donald Trump.

 

[LordofallSocks]

And you’re an idiot jackass

Guilty.

anonymously sitting behind a computer screen.

I have a reputation of squaring in person if you're interested.

Again, I could discuss specifics if we were in person but this is not the right forum for full disclosure.

no , you cant because its hearsay.

Again, Trump did in fact in 1995 put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger. Their altercation has been whispered about in our family for 30 years. And her word is much more trustworthy than Donald Trump.

And its going to keep being whispered because hed sue the dog shit out of you.

 

[gatorshady]

Guilty.

I have a reputation of squaring in person if you're interested.



no , you cant because its hearsay.



And its going to keep being whispered because hed sue the dog shit out of you.

I don’t think you would like the outcome of “squaring up”. Either way, I’m not here to stoop to your level. I knew you were an ignorant supporter of a racist who could not debate without resorting to childish rants.

Don’t respond to me again and I will give you your space.

Peace.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

You're an idiot and that's the nicest word I can use.

I agree. Dumber than a brick.

 

[mhillier13]

More bullcrap! I’m not telling you that Trump supported racists. I’m telling you that Trump IS a racist, and that he actually put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger.

What does your post have to with anything I said? Stop practicing a wrote response for any liberal you encounter and cutting and pasting an idiotic response. I’m not that guy.

Trump has not done the same as the others. That’s bullshit. Biden, Obama, nor Clinton verbally and racially accosted any of my family members. And none of your family members either. Neither did Bush or Reagan. Stop making excuses for your support of this low character, racist president.

Or just own it.

But Biden did say he didn’t want his kids riding on buses or going to school with black kids and called it a racial jungle.

 

[gatorshady]

But Biden did say he didn’t want his kids riding on buses or going to school with black kids and called it a racial jungl

So you acknowledge that Trump is a racist and you’re ok with it? And now you want me to say that Biden is a racist too so it’s all good?

What kind of dumb strategy is that?

If you came to this debate in good faith, not just to try to play the gotcha game then listen to this, brother, please stop trying to tell black people which old white guy is the most racist. We know better than you.

Biden is no saint (and notice I haven’t mentioned anyone besides Trump because it’s a deflection). But Trump’s racism and lack of character are down right repugnant.

Again, Trump is a racist. He actually put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger.

 

[LordofallSocks]

I don’t think you would like the outcome of “squaring up”.

i think i might. pull up.

Either way, I’m not here to stoop to your level. I knew you were an ignorant supporter of a racist who could not debate without resorting to childish rants.

you expect us all to take your word for a really badly made up story?

Don’t respond to me again and I will give you your spac

dont tell me what to do, hippy.

 

[Gator Fever]

And you’re an idiot jackass anonymously sitting behind a computer screen. And only someone who does not know him would find this surprising. I could discuss specifics about the meeting if we were in person but this is not the right forum for full disclosure.

Again, Trump did in fact in 1995 put his finger in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger. Their altercation has been whispered about in our family for 30 years. And her word is much more trustworthy than Donald Trump.

🤣 If Trump was like that the audio of something like that would have came out before he won in 2016. Zero chance a public person like that wouldn't get caught on audio doing that sometime. Surprised the lefties haven't produced a fake AI audio of him doing it and trying to pass it off as real though.

 

[gatorshady]

i think i might. pull up.



you expect us all to take your word for a really badly made up story?


dont tell me what to do, hippy.

See I knew there was something off about you. No one in their right mind would ever, EVER call me a hippy. So you must not be in your right mind.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and give you time to sleep off the alcohol, my man, because you must be drunk.

Again, don’t respond to my posts and I won’t respond to yours. I’m not stooping to your ignorant level.

Peace.

 

[gatorshady]

🤣 If Trump was like that the audio of something like that would have came out before he won in 2016. Zero chance a public person like that wouldn't get caught on audio doing that sometime. Surprised the lefties haven't produced a fake AI audio of him doing it and trying to pass it off as real though.

Why? Because you say so? There are thousands of conversations that go on every day that don’t get recorded, especially in 1995.

Obviously, you will do mental gymnastics to support your belief that DJT is not a racist, but he is.

Again, Trump put his hand in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger. Truth is not dependent on what YOU believe.

 

[LordofallSocks]

See I knew there was something off about you. No one in their right mind would ever, EVER call me a hippy. So you must not be in your right mind.

i dont know you. and you seem to think you run something. You dont.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and give you time to sleep off the alcohol, my man, because you must be drunk.

Its 8 o clock, i havent even started yet.

Again, don’t respond to my posts and I won’t respond to yours. I’m not stooping to your ignorant level.

Peace.

Do you think youre still on the paid forum? Youre not. Stop telling me what to do.

i swear these Swamp People dont know shit about sports or politics.

 

[Gator Fever]

Why? Because you say so? There are thousands of conversations that go on every day that don’t get recorded, especially in 1995.

Obviously, you will do mental gymnastics to support your belief that DJT is not a racist, but he is.

Again, Trump put his hand in my aunt’s face and called her a ***ger. Truth is not dependent on what YOU believe.

You can live in your fantasy world. Heck Maybe Fake News CNN might run with your claims like they did with Hillary and the deep state's Russian Collusion hoax. I mean they did run that one for years knowing it was 100% fake.