Proposed NIL salary cap on the table

[johnhinson]

I saw that the NCAA is proposing a salary cap of $23.1 million per year with annual increases. This is based off providing the players 22% of the average power conference TV revenue.

If this is passed, which I assume it will, then every school will start hiring a GM and that position will be by far the most important. I say that because I don’t believe this will prevent private companies from providing NIL contracts to individuals. This only includes the NIL contracts specifically provided by the school. Therefore, whatever school’s GM can set up players with the best private NIL deals will end up with the best roster. I assume this would be handled by the GM simply because there is no way the HC would have enough time to take this on.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t see how the NCAA could prevent 3rd parties from paying players whatever they want.

 

[Hutchzone]

I saw that the NCAA is proposing a salary cap of $23.1 million per year with annual increases. This is based off providing the players 22% of the average power conference TV revenue.

If this is passed, which I assume it will, then every school will start hiring a GM and that position will be by far the most important. I say that because I don’t believe this will prevent private companies from providing NIL contracts to individuals. This only includes the NIL contracts specifically provided by the school. Therefore, whatever school’s GM can set up players with the best private NIL deals will end up with the best roster. I assume this would be handled by the GM simply because there is no way the HC would have enough time to take this on.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t see how the NCAA could prevent 3rd parties from paying players whatever they want.

They cannot but they could try to make a rule preventing those private parties from tying their sponsorships to a specific school.

 

[bgator1]

I don't understand how the NCAA can regulate or have any control over revenue sharing or a salary cap. This is now the free market place and each school will need to manage this (I assume with a GM).
I'm sure I'm missing something here.

 

[TOJN_Gator]

I don't foresee general managers becoming even close to as powerful as the coaches in college football anytime soon. The culture of college football in regard to the prevalence of coaches is not going to just shift in that regard overnight.

When a GM gets to start telling a Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman, Steve Sarkisian (and on and on) who they get to have on their team, let me know. But I doubt that is going to happen anytime soon.

GMs have the most power in many NFL organizations simply because there is a single owner who says so (other than the Green Bay Packers), There are no single owners in college football. There are athletic directors, University Presidents, Boards of Trustees, key big boosters, and general fan sentiment. As long as a coach enjoys a sufficient measure of fan support, they will be the head of the football program. If they lose it, maybe they lose power temporarily because they are on their way out. But as soon as a new coach his hired and gets their initial support, they will take over again as the most important.

 

[Gator-B]

I don't foresee general managers becoming even close to as powerful as the coaches in college football anytime soon. The culture of college football in regard to the prevalence of coaches is not going to just shift in that regard overnight.

When a GM gets to start telling a Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman, Steve Sarkisian (and on and on) who they get to have on their team, let me know. But I doubt that is going to happen anytime soon.

GMs have the most power in many NFL organizations simply because there is a single owner who says so (other than the Green Bay Packers), There are no single owners in college football. There are athletic directors, University Presidents, Boards of Trustees, key big boosters, and general fan sentiment. As long as a coach enjoys a sufficient measure of fan support, they will be the head of the football program. If they lose it, maybe they lose power temporarily because they are on their way out. But as soon as a new coach his hired and gets their initial support, they will take over again as the most important.

Like Jason mentioned, these GM's aren't GM's in the general sense. These guys wont be making personnel decisions, they will be responsible for "player relations" and contracts and the money/budget to an extent. Removing NIL from a coaches plate for the most part.

 

[jmlabree]

I don't foresee general managers becoming even close to as powerful as the coaches in college football anytime soon. The culture of college football in regard to the prevalence of coaches is not going to just shift in that regard overnight.

When a GM gets to start telling a Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman, Steve Sarkisian (and on and on) who they get to have on their team, let me know. But I doubt that is going to happen anytime soon.

GMs have the most power in many NFL organizations simply because there is a single owner who says so (other than the Green Bay Packers), There are no single owners in college football. There are athletic directors, University Presidents, Boards of Trustees, key big boosters, and general fan sentiment. As long as a coach enjoys a sufficient measure of fan support, they will be the head of the football program. If they lose it, maybe they lose power temporarily because they are on their way out. But as soon as a new coach his hired and gets their initial support, they will take over again as the most important.

Agreed - for example; The Bucs have Jason Licht as GM and Mike Greenberg as Assistant GM (He may soon go to the Jets as GM though). Mike is the salary cap guru for the team and Jason runs the team. The college GMs would be more like a Mike Greenberg role than a Jason Licht role. They ought to work with, but not necessarily report to the Head Coach. Both should report to the AD. IMHO

 

[Coolgtr]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t see how the NCAA could prevent 3rd parties from paying players whatever they want.

Would a player's NIL amount be public knowledge or can it be? They have to declare it for tax purposes so if we all knew, including the NCAA, what every player is making with regards to NIL, then they could easily monitor if that amount is more than 23M a year. Obviously, $100 handshakes couldn't be monitored and I suppose it would go back to the way things used to be in that regard.

If I know every player's NIL per team, all it would take is a simple calculator to determine if they've exceeded the annual limit or not. Seems easy enough.

 

[Harviee]

Heard something interesting yesterday schools are going to move these NIL agreements to contracts whether. 2 3 or 4 year and if the player leaves during their contract they have to pay money back. Not sure if there is any validity to this but that would cut down on the crazy transferring going on for sure.

 

[markde]

I saw that the NCAA is proposing a salary cap of $23.1 million per year with annual increases. This is based off providing the players 22% of the average power conference TV revenue.

If this is passed, which I assume it will, then every school will start hiring a GM and that position will be by far the most important. I say that because I don’t believe this will prevent private companies from providing NIL contracts to individuals. This only includes the NIL contracts specifically provided by the school. Therefore, whatever school’s GM can set up players with the best private NIL deals will end up with the best roster. I assume this would be handled by the GM simply because there is no way the HC would have enough time to take this on.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t see how the NCAA could prevent 3rd parties from paying players whatever they want.

Without an effective cap on TOTAL NIL (school + third party) spending, this is nothing more than the next chapter in the arms race.

 

[-THE DUDE-]

NIL can’t be controlled with a cap…only pay for play can from the schools. And good luck stopping people from continuing to drop bags. There is only one way to put the genie back in the bottle…

 

[MTgator10]

Well it is a long damn road to getting any of this truly in hand, but I will say like the NFL and other leagues, one day there better be hell to pay for manipulating or skirting around the cap or whatever. Like many have said in this thread, bag dropping and other shenanigans must be met with serious penalties with the most significant being financial hits.

 

[GainesvilleGreen]

Heard something interesting yesterday schools are going to move these NIL agreements to contracts whether. 2 3 or 4 year and if the player leaves during their contract they have to pay money back. Not sure if there is any validity to this but that would cut down on the crazy transferring going on for sure.

And then will be schools that will offer non binding contracts to incentivize kids to sign with them..

Feels like it will never stop, whether legal or illegal.

A draft and collective bargaining is what prevents it in the NFL.

 

[74gator]

NIL can’t be controlled with a cap…only pay for play can from the schools. And good luck stopping people from continuing to drop bags. There is only one way to put the genie back in the bottle…

And what way is that?

I don't believe there's ANY way to put the genie back in the bottle.

 

[bigg8tr]

Here is a good article explaining what is being discussed.....

Almost what I described a few weeks ago....

It is a long article...


There are a number of legal issues; however I ll say it again. You break away the power 4. Create your own power league. Run your own championships. Then put in writing the participation requirements, to include NIL/transfers/ etc. Now, there are options for kids either accept the terms or go play in the NCAA.

With NIL era ending, college sports is on verge of seismic change. How will schools adapt with industry in upheaval?

College football’s more professionalized era arrives in July, and historic powerhouses like Ohio State and Texas could lose both their inherent recruiting advantage and their financial edge.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Harviee]

And then will be schools that will offer non binding contracts to incentivize kids to sign with them..

Feels like it will never stop, whether legal or illegal.

A draft and collective bargaining is what prevents it in the NFL

It's not sustainable in its present form.

 

[-THE DUDE-]

And what way is that?

I don't believe there's ANY way to put the genie back in the bottle.

One that Will never happen and that’s to get rid of recruiting (draft) and players sign contracts for a minimum of three years. As long as you have recruiting it’s the Wild West that can’t be controlled.

 

[SawtoothSmile]

NIL can’t be controlled with a cap…only pay for play can from the schools. And good luck stopping people from continuing to drop bags. There is only one way to put the genie back in the bottle…

I agree with this. What might happen is that the pay the schools provide will raise the bar on the amount it will take for outside NIL to move the needle for a player. If it took dropping a bag to get a player before, it will take 10x (or more) to get that player now. Does that mean that only deeper-pocket boosters will be impactful now?

 

[GatorTrooper]

Transfers have to sit a year. It's the easiest fix for college athletics . Every big conference can enforce it.

 

[-THE DUDE-]

I agree with this. What might happen is that the pay the schools provide will raise the bar on the amount it will take for outside NIL to move the needle for a player. If it took dropping a bag to get a player before, it will take 10x (or more) to get that player now. Does that mean that only deeper-pocket boosters will be impactful now?

Exactly…schools paying the kids isn’t going to deter them from wanting NIL too

 

[GainesvilleGreen]

Once colleges can pay players, can outside NIL actually be enforced for its actual intention, and not Pay for Play?

As in, there is a legitimate market based payment on the services rendered.

 

[michael morsillo]

I saw that the NCAA is proposing a salary cap of $23.1 million per year with annual increases. This is based off providing the players 22% of the average power conference TV revenue.

Please be careful using the word “cap,”especially “salary cap” this is neither

It sounds like this is the maximum allotment per school. Also, I haven’t seen anywhere how the schools are going to divide up all this money amongst men’s and women’s sports..

If this is passed, which I assume it will, then every school will start hiring a GM and that position will be by far the most important.

Not necessarily.

I say that because I don’t believe this will prevent private companies from providing NIL contracts to individuals.

Correct

This only includes the NIL contracts specifically provided by the school. Therefore, whatever school’s GM can set up players with the best private NIL deals will end up with the best roster. I assume this would be handled by the GM simply because there is no way the HC would have enough time to take this on.

This

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t see how the NCAA could prevent 3rd parties from paying players whatever they want.

They CANNOT

 

[michael morsillo]

Once colleges can pay players, can outside NIL actually be enforced for its actual intention, and not Pay for Play?

NO, THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE

The contracts are based on potential.

As in, there is a legitimate market based payment on the services rendered.

Who determines that? Are we going to have thousands of hearings for every single NIL deal for every single player?

 

[michael morsillo]

I believe it was Blake who accurately described this as simply “raising the floor” for everybody in terms of NIL

And about a week before that SR posted as clearly as possible that :
“there will still be NIL” (from private sources)