Man... these goal posts sure do shift a lot LOL
Agree but they aren't fine peopleThen don't deal with them. This is still America, where you can believe any retarded ass thing you want to as long as it doesn't lead to physical violence or property damage.
No no no. I'm not saying he's that now. We were discussing that comment at that time and why it was a bigot/racist comment.Your logic...yea man, gmab.
You bend over backwards to excuse Biden for blatant racism. You also bend over backwards to make the case that Trump supported WS.
We are never going to see eye to eye on this. And with all due respect, that is because you are being entirely unreasonable.
You are grasping at straws here. Trump said "there were good people on both sides of the protest".
Nothing more, nothing less. You let the media tell you what to think.
There were also trouble makers there. Both radical sides. Trump did not speak of nor refer to them.
More revisionist history.
Ok but protesting with white supremacist don't make you a fine person but I'm seriously not shocked that you guys do.You are grasping at straws here. Trump said "there were good people on both sides of the protest".
Nothing more, nothing less. You let the media tell you what to think.
There were also trouble makers there. Both radical sides. Trump did not speak of nor refer to them.
More revisionist history.
Protesting with BLM and Antifa makes you a fine person though? Logic is not your friend, friend.Ok but protesting with white supremacist don't make you a fine person but I'm seriously not shocked that you guys do.
This might be the dumbest thing I've seen you post, and I don't give you a lot of grief. Say you go in front of the court house to protest your taxes being raised? Ted Bundy is on your left, Charles Manson is on your right. They are holding the same protest signs you are. Do you not see the fallacy of your argument? 😂Ok but protesting with white supremacist don't make you a fine person but I'm seriously not shocked that you guys do.
I have a random question for you because I believe your answer will be interesting.Ok but protesting with white supremacist don't make you a fine person but I'm seriously not shocked that you guys do.
To go and protest with white or black supremacist means you feel comfortable with being associated with them. I would never go and protest with black supremacist. I don't care if they were protesting to make Pitts the heisman. Once I know it's their protest, then I'm out but that's just me.This might be the dumbest thing I've seen you post, and I don't give you a lot of grief. Say you go in front of the court house to protest your taxes being raised? Ted Bundy is on your left, Charles Manson is on your right. They are holding the same protest signs you are. Do you not see the fallacy of your argument? 😂
No idea because I was never taught that. I'm ok with not knowing everything. I'll differ that to someone else. As I told @BamaFan1137, I always respected the police and have a great relationship with them, well all but 1 in my entire life.I have a random question for you because I believe your answer will be interesting.
When I was about ten, my friend Deon's mother gave him the standard instruction on how to deal with cops as a black child. Since I am brown and live in America, I was included in this period of instruction.
It boiled down to be polite, follow instructions, don't run. Don't do the things your white friends do because they can do that and you can't.
My question is if you teach your children to be afraid of cops, who do you teach them to call when they need help?
I understand where you are coming from but I have a hard time believing any politician let alone a former KKK member. Could people rehabilitate themselves? Sure, but I have a very hard time believing a man who grew up in the south during a time where they thought the black race was inferior in every way and who also created legislation that sets the black community back. That man has done some evil things during his time as a klan member that just don’t go away.You know I respect you. So sorry for the delayed response. Byrd was a former Klan member but as he got older the man changed. He denounced racism, segregation and was adamant about how being a Klan member was the worse thing he ever did. Byrd definitely evolved. Byrd was also growing up in a era when that was "ok". I am sure his parents/friends told him that was the correct way to live.
Black people are very forgiving. We understand that not everyone is perfect on race. We just want to see that you're trying and that you're listening. Biden has always listened, he has been very involved with the NAACP. He worked as lawyer helping poor black people. He struggles with talking about us but he knows how to talk to us. Just youtube Biden at black churches.
Yep, they slip up and give the game away if you listen long enough.
Catching onto a lot of them in this thread.Catching on to the theme?
You are not grasping the pebble grasshopper. The protest was about REMOVING HISTORICAL MONUMENTS. Some wanted to remove them, others wanted to preserve American history. Your avatar says that you are a Bull Gator, so you've been around, and likely a Gator fan. So you'd never attend a Gator game because 5% of the Gator fans are unruly drunks and start fights in the stadium? 😂To go and protest with white or black supremacist means you feel comfortable with being associated with them. I would never go and protest with black supremacist. I don't care if they were protesting to make Pitts the heisman. Once I know it's their protest, then I'm out but that's just me.
Seems that some of you are ok with working with known white supremacy to advance your causes. That's where we ALL seem to disagree.
You never got "The Talk?" That's amazing. I know Black kids that never got the birds and bees talk that got the cop talk.No idea because I was never taught that. I'm ok with not knowing everything. I'll differ that to someone else. As I told @BamaFan1137, I always respected the police and have a great relationship with them, well all but 1 in my entire life.
You noticed how Morning Joe quickly moved on to the next topic before it was noticed?😂Yep, they slip up and give the game away if you listen long enough.
I agree it's tough to forgive a former Klan member but it's possible. That's the hands black people were dealt. We have presidents who owned slaved and i sure had relationships with Klan members. If you're going to evolve with the new times we need to see. I'm not saying Byrd was anything special but he was long past his Klan days when he became a senator.I understand where you are coming from but I have a hard time believing any politician let alone a former KKK member. Could people rehabilitate themselves? Sure, but I have a very hard time believing a man who grew up in the south during a time where they thought the black race was inferior in every way and who also created legislation that sets the black community back. That man has done some evil things during his time as a klan member that just don’t go away.
My stance on politicians will never change, they are greedy people and will say anything to hold onto the power they have. Biden is no different and that man wears many faces to stay relevant based on who he’s talked to.
I do have one question for you. You have said that Biden has worked with the NAACP and listens to the black community. Is that all it takes to get the black vote? Can you tell me exactly what Biden has done to progress the black community and make things fair by using his power as a US Senator, Vice President or President? Is there any piece of legislation where he has not only helped the black community and avoided the detriment of other races?
Say what?the assault weapons ban,
I think the talk is made up. Just a stupid liberal talking point. I literally know zero black people who had the talk and I've met hundreds of black people.You never got "The Talk?" That's amazing. I know Black kids that never got the birds and bees talk that got the cop talk.
How so?Say what?
You realize all gun control has its roots in racism.
You think they let freed slaves run around with guns? Why do you think that all or most of the guns named specifically to be banned in the 1994 crime bill cost less than 300 dollars? Why do you think guns aren't allowed in Section 8 housing?How so?
And ive lived in poor black neighborhoods all my life and all my friends give their kids that talk. They truly believe that cops like to shoot little black kids.I think the talk is made up. Just a stupid liberal talking point. I literally know zero black people who had the talk and I've met hundreds of black people.
The crime bill didn’t help the black community, it put more in jail/prison, he help right that bill. On a micro level, I understand what he was trying to do, on a macro level it hurt the community and put generations of fathers in prison which has only led to more issues with a newer generation.I agree it's tough to forgive a former Klan member but it's possible. That's the hands black people were dealt. We have presidents who owned slaved and i sure had relationships with Klan members. If you're going to evolve with the new times we need to see. I'm not saying Byrd was anything special but he was long past his Klan days when he became a senator.
Not saying that's all it took/takes, just saying that was some of things he did. As to your questions, it's tough to judge a senator because as we see they are truly powerless. The crime bill was designed to help the black community with rising crime, the assault weapons ban, climate bill, violence against women, etc. I'll like to see what he does as president.
Fair question. I actually had this same conversation with my Texas conservative friend. I put that in a different category similar to the 2nd amendment and abortion rights fight. I don't consider those the same as race wars.
Focus on actions, not words. You alls faux outrage at Biden rings hollow, as you ignore the racist posts ITT. Nope, you don't care about racism, only to use a political tool. It's too obvious.You mean the first articulate and clean black politician? Yep...he worked for that guy.
If you shut up and listen, people will tell you who they are. Biden has done that many times over.
Agree, the stupid crap people say on this board, like you for example, is very entertaining.
#stupidonpurpose
You are a simpleton. The gift that never stops giving. 😂Focus on actions, not words. You alls faux outrage at Biden rings hollow, as you ignore the racist posts ITT. Nope, you don't care about racism, only to use a political tool. It's too obvious.
Exactly and that bothers me. If a white person is more outraged than a black person about something racist towards the black person, then it's probably only beneficial to the white person.Focus on actions, not words. You alls faux outrage at Biden rings hollow, as you ignore the racist posts ITT. Nope, you don't care about racism, only to use a political tool. It's too obvious.
You do know that more white people are in section 8 housing and on food stamps then black people?You think they let freed slaves run around with guns? Why do you think that all or most of the guns named specifically to be banned in the 1994 crime bill cost less than 300 dollars? Why do you think guns aren't allowed in Section 8 housing?
The answer they want you to rely on the government, not yourself. God forbid you have a cheap 38 pistol to defend your family. That's also why they take your 2nd amendment rights away when you get a felony. Apparently drug dealers don't deserve to defend their families.
One of the things that the NRA did was teach black men to shoot. You get less crosses burned on your lawn that way.
You are so obtuse to what has been pointed out to you too many times to count. Your selective outrage at racism is inconsistent and hypocritical. You have literally been shown where Donald Trump condemns racist organizations/people and then shifted the goal posts to make it “anyone at a protest” automatically makes them racist. All in an effort to excuse more blatant racism by someone you voted for LOL! Because that person knows how to pander to black peoples better than the other guy. This is cartoonishly stupid LOL!Exactly and that bothers me. If a white person is more outraged than a black person about something racist towards the black person, then it's probably only beneficial to the white person.
It's about sending a message. The dems are scared to death that the people really WILL rise up and throw them out of DC.So much gaslighting in this thread.....
No way Trump is going to be reinstated.....but these fever swamp rumors are all that Pelosi and Schumer need to keep Capitol Hill surrounded with barbed wire.![]()
Exactly and that bothers me. If a white person is more outraged than a black person about something racist towards the black person, then it's probably only beneficial to the white person.
Focus on actions, not words. You alls faux outrage at Biden rings hollow, as you ignore the racist posts ITT. Nope, you don't care about racism, only to use a political tool. It's too obvious.
You voted for a known racist. And you're on record saying you don't care and that 'your people' don't care about that either.Seems that some of you are ok with working with known white supremacy to advance your causes. That's where we ALL seem to disagree.
Wait, what???I agree it's tough to forgive a former Klan member but it's possible. That's the hands black people were dealt. We have presidents who owned slaved and i sure had relationships with Klan members. If you're going to evolve with the new times we need to see. I'm not saying Byrd was anything special but he was long past his Klan days when he became a senator.
That's what you f*cking took from that? I'm beginning to agree with the other people here, you just see what you want to see. Gun control is classist and racist. Rich people not only have all the guns they want all the time, they also have people to tote them for them. Stuff like assault weapons bans, NFA, even the BATFE don't get in their way. I don't have 25k to buy a full auto weapon, but it doesn't stop rich folk from collecting them. Gun control started out in Reconstruction to keep guns away from Black people. You don't believe that. But I bet you swallow hook, line, and sinker that the origins of policing lie in slave patrols.You do know that more white people are in section 8 housing and on food stamps then black people?
I wasn't talking about Trump, Barney Fife.Actions like raising the standard of living for black Americans to their highest levels ever or by giving more money to HBC's than any administration in history?
Fair point.
Anything from this century?You are a simpleton. The gift that never stops giving. 😂
I took that you're trying to associate section 8 with black people. So if section 8 people can't have guns but more white people is on section 8 than how is that racist to black people?That's what you f*cking took from that? I'm beginning to agree with the other people here, you just see what you want to see. Gun control is classist and racist. Rich people not only have all the guns they want all the time, they also have people to tote them for them. Stuff like assault weapons bans, NFA, even the BATFE don't get in their way. I don't have 25k to buy a full auto weapon, but it doesn't stop rich folk from collecting them. Gun control started out in Reconstruction to keep guns away from Black people. You don't believe that. But I bet you swallow hook, line, and sinker that the origins of policing lie in slave patrols.
What the f*ck do food stamps have to do with gun control?