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Hasn’t he been out anyways? I don’t believe he has played a down yet this year.
Hasn’t he been out anyways? I don’t believe he has played a down yet this year.
Agreed with this 110%. It’s a tough situation. I can see his point of view but it certainly looks like your bailing on your team or that your “too good” to play anymore with your teammates. It comes off as a little entitled.Never gonna knock anybody for doing what’s best for them from the outside but if I was on his team this wouldn’t sit right with me. They’re #2 in the country with a real chance to win a title and he would be a big part of that and he basically bails. We lifted together, grinded together, and now you’re gone.
Agreed with this 110%. It’s a tough situation. I can see his point of view but it certainly looks like your bailing on your team or that your “too good” to play anymore with your teammates. It comes off as a little entitled.
Never gonna knock anybody for doing what’s best for them from the outside but if I was on his team this wouldn’t sit right with me. They’re #2 in the country with a real chance to win a title and he would be a big part of that and he basically bails. We lifted together, grinded together, and now you’re gone.
One thing the NCAA could do is lax the rules around players buying insurance policies, or maybe let the school pay for them and let the player pay the school back when they go pro.
Otherwise, we're going to reach a point soon where any projected 1st round will decide to sit out the rest of his junior season after he has his first minor injury in a game.
Why even bother playing sports if that is the type of behavior we are going to condone? Whatever happened to playing because you “love the game” or play for your school or your teammates.I would advise any kid projected to be a top draft pick to sit out even if they’re healthy, so long as it didn’t hurt their draft position too much. Playing football for free and accepting the injury risk, when you’ve got an 8-figure payday coming your way, is insane.
Why even bother playing sports if that is the type of behavior we are going to condone? Whatever happened to playing because you “love the game” or play for your school or your teammates.
What about basketball? Should college basketball players do the same thing?
This is the type of behavior that will ruin college sports even more.
I would advise any kid projected to be a top draft pick to sit out even if they’re healthy, so long as it didn’t hurt their draft position too much. Playing football for free and accepting the injury risk, when you’ve got an 8-figure payday coming your way, is insane.
That's why I mentioned the insurance policies. Leonard Fournette had a massive one a few years ago, that's why he played his last year at LSU. The NCAA should help relax the rules in this area, otherwise schools will start having a lot of prep players play 2 seasons then sit.
It will also hurt the players. If a kid is a 5-star coming out of HS, some schools won't offer because they are scared they will only have him for 2 seasons. Some will think if we'll only have a kid for 2 seasons, let's get a stud in JUCO.
If we reach a point where it's common for kids to sit out their junior year, it's seriously going to hurt the college game. And that's not what the NCAA wants right now, with fans turning off the NFL in record numbers.
That's why I mentioned the insurance policies. Leonard Fournette had a massive one a few years ago, that's why he played his last year at LSU. The NCAA should help relax the rules in this area, otherwise schools will start having a lot of prep players play 2 seasons then sit.
It will also hurt the players. If a kid is a 5-star coming out of HS, some schools won't offer because they are scared they will only have him for 2 seasons. Some will think if we'll only have a kid for 2 seasons, let's get a stud in JUCO.
If we reach a point where it's common for kids to sit out their junior year, it's seriously going to hurt the college game. And that's not what the NCAA wants right now, with fans turning off the NFL in record numbers.
Yeah I’m not too familiar with the insurance policies and how much they cover. I would think it would cost A LOT to insure a guy’s projected $10-30 million contract through playing 13 games of college football. But it would certainly be the least I would demand if I was going to be a top half of the first round pick.
People have to understand that you are talking life changing money for your kids’ kids if you handle it right. That has to trump love of the game, college teammates, whatever. It sounds like it was a tough decision for Bosa. But his teammates and Urban Meyer aren’t going to be paying his mortgage or his kids’ tuition if he blows out a knee or gets concussion problems, etc...
Also are people turning off the NFL? I thought that ratings were way up this year.
BINGOBTW if a player sits out his junior year to prep for the draft, how will that impact his stock with NFL teams? I would think some teams would question his competitiveness and willingness to be a team player. How would their new NFL teammates take it if the rookie purposely rode the bench his last year in college? I would think the veterans that are playing with busted knees would be a little pissed.
On the other hand, how many teams would be MORE likely to want to draft him because he sat out his last year? I can't see where any would be.
Again, I get why a player would consider it if they were a 1st round lock, but the move would definitely have negative consequences for most of them at both the college and pro level.
BTW if a player sits out his junior year to prep for the draft, how will that impact his stock with NFL teams? I would think some teams would question his competitiveness and willingness to be a team player. How would their new NFL teammates take it if the rookie purposely rode the bench his last year in college? I would think the veterans that are playing with busted knees would be a little pissed.
On the other hand, how many teams would be MORE likely to want to draft him because he sat out his last year? I can't see where any would be.
Again, I get why a player would consider it if they were a 1st round lock, but the move would definitely have negative consequences for most of them at both the college and pro level.
BINGO
It won't and hasn't. NFL teams don't care...they're getting a highly talented player with less tread on the tires and less chance of injury. Fournette and McCaffrey were the first two to start the sit out the bowl game trend and both were top 10 picks. Bosa will be too. Sitting out would only affect the fringe players, the very best players won't see any negative impact. Bosa was actually getting praised by NFL people today saying he's doing the right thing to make sure he's fully healthy for the combine and then ultimately his NFL team next season.
Bosa is already hurt, isn't he? Slightly different situation than what we are talking about here. I'm talking about if this becomes more common, players could go INTO recruiting telling coaches that if they sign with their school, they won't play their junior year. I could see players using it as a sort of blackmail "Better play me as soon as you sign me, cause you'll only have me for 2 years".
I dunno about Mullen, but I think Saban would likely tell those players to go pound sand.
Says he played 2+ games, had 4 sacks, recovered a fumble for a TD and caused another fumble for a TD. He's supposed to be a top-5 pick, so the decision is a no-brainer. Get healthy and sign a $30 million contract... or roll the dice and play for free?
Also are people turning off the NFL? I thought that ratings were way up this year.
I hope he goes undrafted
I do hope he drops out of the top 5 and where he was projected to go.I hope he goes undrafted
I do hope he drops out of the top 5 and where he was projected to go.
I do hope he drops out of the top 5 and where he was projected to go.
Thats his personal decison. Not the decision I would make. Different strokes for different folks.I bet he won't drop as far as he would if he came back to play and re-injured himself seriously. But then at least he'd have the memories of locker room camaraderie to console him for the millions of dollars lost. He'd go interview with GMs and talk about his love for his teammates and the game of football and they'd tell him: that will serve you well in your future as D-line coach at Toledo HS.
Thats his personal decison. Not the decision I would make. Different strokes for different folks.
I don’t seem to recall players doing this 10 or even 5 years ago. Why now? I know why but it is what it is.
When millions are at stake..we are talking (if managed correctly) his kids kids would be set up to start adult life on the right foot. I do understand.
But where does it stop in ths future? Will a 4/5 star prep player who recierec numerous offers decide to sit out his senior year in prep ball? Will the freshman/Sophomore sensation start to sit out their third year knowing they are a lock for the NFL?
When millions are at stake..we are talking (if managed correctly) his kids kids would be set up to start adult life on the right foot. I do understand.
But where does it stop in ths future? Will a 4/5 star prep player who received numerous offers decide to sit out his senior year in prep ball? Will the freshman/Sophomore sensation start to sit out their third year knowing they are a lock for the NFL?
You probably hoped that "lethal simplicity" would be the new "fast break" also. Neither looks very likely unfortunately.