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I haven’t been around, but….

I was pushing for either Kelly or Frost I think.

I give Mullen credit for his play calling as he has been great at that last year and in this game scheming guys open. If Mullen has the right QB he is really good on offense. I think we are in the SECCG if a certain QB was to takeover for whatever reason down the road.
 
Mullen has to be like one of the best (if not, the best), QB coaches in America. That guy can seemingly get something out of anybody. It is amazing how he gets dudes to maximize their talent. He’s been doing it consistently since he was at Bowling Green with Urb.
He’s a great QB developer and offensive coach/play caller. He needs to find a way to improve the defense and recruit a little better and he could win championships here easily.
 
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Mullen has to be like one of the best (if not, the best), QB coaches in America. That guy can seemingly get something out of anybody. It is amazing how he gets dudes to maximize their talent. He’s been doing it consistently since he was at Bowling Green with Urb.

Are you serious sad unless the bar is really low with quite a few QBs? I will say its not just Mullen who can't do much when a QB doesn't naturally process things well. If they are great runners you will get that but not make them a good passing threat. The last guy he had at Miss State was a perfect example of that. I agree Mullen is great with QBs that have the tools especially after him changing things with Trask and adapting so well.
 
I think it was TennesseeGator. He had some sort of personal relationship with him in Memphis and was really high on him.
No sir.

I never said I wanted Norvell over Mullen.

I wanted Mullen over Musdump and Butters. Many kept saying " he is too arrogant because Miami didnt hire him".I believe you were one of these people.

I've wanted Mullen since Urban had his first "retirement "

Yes I know Norvell. Yes I thought Norvell would have been successful at Free Shoes.

The thing I defended Norvell on was folks (mainly Paco and Michi) with the

hE mUsT hAvE bAgGaGe bEcAuSe ArKaNsAs dId nOt hIrE hIm nonsense or the "he was vetted by Ole Miss and he failed"

On that subject Arkansas hired that sucky Chad(already forgot his last name)sucky dude from SMU, UT hired Potato Head, Ole Miss hired Fatt Luke, and Mississippi State hired whoever's that guy was from Penn State. Sure Norvell sucks at a big program but so did all those other hires.

Anyway, yes I did think he could be a good coach, but I wanted Dan Mullen from Day 1.

I more or less defended his character. There were those girly gossip folks who believed nOrVeLl hAs a gAmBlINg pRoBlEm...or nOrVeLl fvcked a cO eD aT tUlSa

Yes I know him from multiple angles.
1. We lived in the same neighborhood one block apart.
2. We worshipped at the same worship house
3. My (best friend) first cousin played college ball with him at UCA(when he had the corn rows)
4. My brother was the car dealer that worked with him getting his sponsored staff vehicles while he was coaching in Memphis.
5. My nephew was part of the Memphis support staff in the capacity of team trainer when Norvell was the head coach
5. My company did his new heat and air system in his home.
6. A close lady friend of mine occasionally baby sat his daughter.
7. We were blackjack partners at the Tunica Casinos and when not there we chased college chicks. 🤣

Oh how I wish #7 was true lol.

If any person I've ever met in my life have it be regular person or "famous" person that was so financially sound or so attention to detail. If he was a cheater and a gambler, he did it well. Also funny he would build a lake home (See why Arkansas thought they'd hire him) and turned down a raise to pay his assistants more if he had this so.called gambling debt.

But yes I'm surprised to see him fail. However his choice in job, I'm glad to see him fail 😃

But no sorry it wasn't me mad we chose Mullen over Norvell.

Hell me and you use to debate over Mullen like a decade ago. You always thought he wasn't ready but I started he was as ready as Musdump or Butters lame asses.

I debated briefly that Norvell was just as good as or better than Scott Frost. That H2H didnt really matter because Frost had an advantage with the local recruiting base. So far they both suck.

All that said...

It was Zona(orZoni) Gator who wanted Norvell over Mullen.
 
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Are you serious sad unless the bar is really low with quite a few QBs? I will say its not just Mullen who can't do much when a QB doesn't naturally process things well. If they are great runners you will get that but not make them a good passing threat. The last guy he had at Miss State was a perfect example of that. I agree Mullen is great with QBs that have the tools especially after him changing things with Trask and adapting so well.
Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Tim Tebow & Kyle Trask. 3 first round picks and guy that just signed a 4 year $160M contract. The only other guys that do just as good of a job with QBs is Lincoln Riley.
 
Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Tim Tebow & Kyle Trask. 3 first round picks and guy that just signed a 4 year $160M contract. The only other guys that do just as good of a job with QBs is Lincoln Riley.
Just to be "that guy" Dak wasn't a first round pick. But i see your point and agree.

You might as well add Felipe Franks to that list. He played under Mullen than he did Butters or Pittman
 
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Just to be "that guy" Dak wasn't a first round pick. But i see your point and agree.

You might as well add Felipe Franks to that list. He played under Mullen than he did Butters or Pittman

Ah that's right. I forgot about that guy. Sheesh he was a weirdo.

Also, the blackjack tables in Tunica sounds awfully specific to be a lie....hmmmm.
 
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While we are on the subject I want some honesty from everyone.

When we had openings since Meyer left..or even since Muschamp was fired who yalls choice was. .

I've been a Mullen fan from day 1. He was our best OC in my lifetime (SOS doesn't count) and he had Ms State at their best in my lifetime.

Yes I'll admit I was hyping Norvell

I also was favoring at one point in the processes
Justin Fuente
PJ Fleck
Scott Frost
Blake Anderson
And at some point way back when I wanted to fire Muschamp and get on the Gus Bus

I remember @Michi_Gator drooling over Rich Rod. Seems like he was all for the Frost warning...and I believe he like Chad Morris when he was OC at Clemson. I also think he loved Chip Kelly

@PacoGator19 was all for Frost if I remember correctly. Also think he was a Chip Kelly fan

I can't remember all his choices but @Dannygator1989 was in the Muschamp corner until the very end and still defends him to this day. I also remember you didnt want Mullen when we were in the search before settling on McElwain.

I can't remember but somebody was always wanting Kerwin Bell. Seems like Insta but I am not for sure.

Yall be honest.
 
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Just to be "that guy" Dak wasn't a first round pick. But i see your point and agree.

You might as well add Felipe Franks to that list. He played under Mullen than he did Butters or Pittman
I hope Prescott who was a great college QB proves me wrong but as a Dallas fan he has a hard time getting the score at the end you need to win close games. Can't push it on the long passes you need then like a Rodgers and them do a lot. Very frustrating as a Dallas fan.
 
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While we are on the subject I want some honesty from everyone.

When we had openings since Meyer left..or even since Muschamp was fired who yalls choice was. .

I've been a Mullen fan from day 1. He was our best OC in my lifetime (SOS doesn't count) and he had Ms State at their best in my lifetime.

Yes I'll admit I was hyping Norvell

I also was favoring at one point in the processes
Justin Fuente
PJ Fleck
Scott Frost
Blake Anderson
And at some point way back when I wanted to fire Muschamp and get on the Gus Bus

I remember @Michi_Gator drooling over Rich Rod. Seems like he was all for the Frost warning...and I believe he like Chad Morris when he was OC at Clemson. I also think he loved Chip Kelly

@PacoGator19 was all for Frost if I remember correctly. Also think he was a Chip Kelly fan

I can't remember all his choices but @Dannygator1989 was in the Muschamp corner until the very end and still defends him to this day. I also remember you didnt want Mullen when we were in the search before settling on McElwain.

I can't remember but somebody was always wanting Kerwin Bell. Seems like Insta but I am not for sure.

Yall be honest.
I was in the Frost camp. Glad that didn’t pan out.
 
He’s a great QB developer and offensive coach/play caller. He needs to find a way to improve the defense and recruit a little better and he could win championships here easily.
What I am impressed AF with is, we lost TWO receivers from last year that were 1st round draft choices, and these new guys are looking great. Hell, I don't even know what their names are yet.
 
TG, I wanted Kerwin when the moron hired Charlie Cheeseburger as the OC.
I'd still take Kerwin as an OC, if an opening occurred at UF for an OC.

I wanted Dan from the get-go every time the HC'ing job came open, but I do believe that he needed some 'seasoning time' at MsSt before taking over at UF. I'd have liked to have gotten him post musclecramp.

I thought the DC/Coach-n-waiting at TX was a decent choice at the time.
I also thought that he should have gotten a 4th year. Never know how it might have turned out?

I thought that McLame ColoSt HC and former Saban/UA OC was a decent choice at the time.
I thought that he was a complete idiot with his retread QB choices and said so back then.
Del Rio - Appleby - Zaire --- and then Franks over Trask.
As it turned out, neither Musclecramp nor McLame was ready for or up to the job at UF, hindsight being it's usual 20/20....

I hated Cow-chip Kelly then, and I still do. I disliked most of the rest.
I thought that Frost might work out if Dan didn't take the job, but Frost was my fall back choice.

I was and continue to be thrilled with Dan as the Gator's HC.
Being a position committee and play the roster when possible kind of dude, Dan is my icing on the cake.
 
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TG, I wanted Kerwin when the moron hired Charlie Cheeseburger as the OC.
I'd still take Kerwin as an OC, if an opening occurred at UF for an OC.

I wanted Dan from the get-go every time the HC'ing job came open, but I do believe that he needed some 'seasoning time' at MsSt before taking over at UF. I'd have liked to have gotten him post musclecramp.

I thought the DC/Coach-n-waiting at TX was a decent choice at the time.
I also thought that he should have gotten a 4th year. Never know how it might have turned out?

I thought that McLame ColoSt HS and former Saban/UA OC was a decent choice at the time.
I thought that he was a complete idiot with his retread QB choices and said so back then.
Del Rio - Appleby - Zaire --- and then Franks over Trask.
As it turned out, neither Musclecramp nor McLame was ready for or up to the job at UF, hindsight being it's usual 20/20....

I hated Cow-chip Kelly then, and I still do. I disliked most of the rest.
I thought that Frost might work out if Dan didn't take the job, but Frost was my fall back choice.

I was and continue to be thrilled with Dan as the Gator's HC.
Being a position committee and play the roster when possible kind of dude, Dan is my icing on the cake.
I do remember you were always in the Dan camp. I also remember you coined Kelly Cow Chip from the get go.

I at times wouldn't have minded Kerwin as OC but not HC. Somebody wanted him as HC.
 
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While we are on the subject I want some honesty from everyone.

When we had openings since Meyer left..or even since Muschamp was fired who yalls choice was. .

I've been a Mullen fan from day 1. He was our best OC in my lifetime (SOS doesn't count) and he had Ms State at their best in my lifetime.

Yes I'll admit I was hyping Norvell

I also was favoring at one point in the processes
Justin Fuente
PJ Fleck
Scott Frost
Blake Anderson
And at some point way back when I wanted to fire Muschamp and get on the Gus Bus

I remember @Michi_Gator drooling over Rich Rod. Seems like he was all for the Frost warning...and I believe he like Chad Morris when he was OC at Clemson. I also think he loved Chip Kelly

@PacoGator19 was all for Frost if I remember correctly. Also think he was a Chip Kelly fan

I can't remember all his choices but @Dannygator1989 was in the Muschamp corner until the very end and still defends him to this day. I also remember you didnt want Mullen when we were in the search before settling on McElwain.

I can't remember but somebody was always wanting Kerwin Bell. Seems like Insta but I am not for sure.

Yall be honest.
I said that I wanted Chip Kelly because I felt he was a splash hire and his name would be an immediate boost to recruiting and we would get
back in contention pretty quickly. I also said that I felt Mullen could get us back in contention, but he wasn't as splashy a hire, so it would take a lot more work on the recruiting trail and the upward trajectory would be a bit slower. I wasn't the only person to think it was a 3-5 year rebuild. And here we are in year 4, knocking on the door.
 
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Just to be "that guy" Dak wasn't a first round pick. But i see your point and agree.

You might as well add Felipe Franks to that list. He played under Mullen than he did Butters or Pittman
While we are on the subject I want some honesty from everyone.

When we had openings since Meyer left..or even since Muschamp was fired who yalls choice was. .

I've been a Mullen fan from day 1. He was our best OC in my lifetime (SOS doesn't count) and he had Ms State at their best in my lifetime.

Yes I'll admit I was hyping Norvell

I also was favoring at one point in the processes
Justin Fuente
PJ Fleck
Scott Frost
Blake Anderson
And at some point way back when I wanted to fire Muschamp and get on the Gus Bus

I remember @Michi_Gator drooling over Rich Rod. Seems like he was all for the Frost warning...and I believe he like Chad Morris when he was OC at Clemson. I also think he loved Chip Kelly

@PacoGator19 was all for Frost if I remember correctly. Also think he was a Chip Kelly fan

I can't remember all his choices but @Dannygator1989 was in the Muschamp corner until the very end and still defends him to this day. I also remember you didnt want Mullen when we were in the search before settling on McElwain.

I can't remember but somebody was always wanting Kerwin Bell. Seems like Insta but I am not for sure.

Yall be honest.
I liked Frost and Kelly and I always thought Mullen was a good coach just based on how he was doing at Miss St, which too this day was very impressive. With that being said I didn’t like Frost taking all his UCF coaches to Nebraska and I wouldn’t have wanted him to do that if he came to UF. So therefore I wouldn’t have wanted him.
 
Are you serious sad unless the bar is really low with quite a few QBs? I will say its not just Mullen who can't do much when a QB doesn't naturally process things well. If they are great runners you will get that but not make them a good passing threat. The last guy he had at Miss State was a perfect example of that. I agree Mullen is great with QBs that have the tools especially after him changing things with Trask and adapting so well.
Name one QB that Dan hasn’t gotten maximum performance (for that individual) out of…

Dan probably COULD actually coach up the McElwain dog…and it wouldn’t be total bullshit if he said it…
 
I liked Frost and Kelly and I always thought Mullen was a good coach just based on how he was doing at Miss St, which too this day was very impressive. With that being said I didn’t like Frost taking all his UCF coaches to Nebraska and I wouldn’t have wanted him to do that if he came to UF. So therefore I wouldn’t have wanted him.

Three days before visiting Kelly for a second time, members of the search committee drove to Orlando to meet with Frost on Thursday, Nov. 16, two days before Frost’s 9–0 Knights played Temple. They describe the interview with Frost as unimpressive, and they emerged with a similar feeling: He’s not ready for this big of a job.
 
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Three days before visiting Kelly for a second time, members of the search committee drove to Orlando to meet with Frost on Thursday, Nov. 16, two days before Frost’s 9–0 Knights played Temple. They describe the interview with Frost as unimpressive, and they emerged with a similar feeling: He’s not ready for this big of a job.
Thanks for the link. That was a great read.
 
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