Hiden complicit in riots
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Yep. But the point is a good one. He should be in prison orange
You catch covid? Because your sense of smell is off. Lock up Bejing Biden!!!
You had no problem blaming Trump for everything including your childhood problems
No Bill you know that is totally false propaganda. I do not and would never blame someone for something that took place before his/her time.
Jimbo just revealed his strategy for not blaming Biden for anything...perhaps ever?
I'm assuming he's preparing because he knew deep down there is nothing real that Biden can do re: covid...just like Trump couldn't...but libs pretended otherwise out of sheer (retarded) partisanship.
Don't worry Jimbo, it looks like we're going to start fudging the numbers in Biden's favor with the new CDC regs. More to come???
When you talk about fudging numbers I believe you, you all have had lots of practice.
You know that from the beginning I have said numerous times that the Rep. staged the whole "the election was stolen ' so that Trump could steal it from Biden because he was pretty sure he was going to lose.
And how did that turn out for us? We got corn pop anyway so your point is stupid.
Look at how much damage corn pop has done in just two days, TWO DAYS! ISIS, which has been non existent for three years, just started shit again. Why? Is it because they know corn pop is weak? Think logically about this old man.
Can you tell us again about how great the next four years is going to be?
Have you surrendered you’re 13% oxygen to China yet. You need to hurry up and do that.
The post is wondering why Biden doesn't condemn violence in Oregon and Washington (state). Why does this make him a nut case? I think it is an excellent question and the fact that Biden and the "fake" news will not condemn it tells you all you need to know about the state of our country.
@JIMBO1313 is a true believer, and a fool. Likable fool, but a fool
Ok, but first:
I would and still have used Hydroxychloroquine in COVID
Like most therapies, it doesn't help much, but may have benefit early in the disease
It works by suppressing the hyper-immune response much in the same way that Decadron (steroids) does
I believe in limited local isolated shut downs when ICU and total bed saturation is truly reached
I believe in early removal from vent if COVID patients cannot get off the vent w/in a few weeks and 2 critical care experts agree with futility
Now shoot.
Why is Africa not affected the way we here in the USA is being affected when Africa has the ability to buy Hydro over the counter?
I don't know. I do know that you are implying a cause and effect that is unproven and unsupported by the medical literature.
South Africa, for example, has one of the highest rates of infection. The African nations that border the Mediterranean have higher rates than the countries along the equator. Meanwhile, many South American Equatorial nations have a much higher rate of infection while countries like China have a lower rate of infection than most. Australia and New Zealand have very low rates of infection.
If you look at a world map, what is common amongst nations with high infection rates are high levels of socioeconomic and industrialization without an easy ability to mass isolate. You can speculate from that a few things:
More travel leading to more spread
More testing leading to more accurate numbers
Better access to health care leading to more accurate testing and reporting
More exposure to other populations from around the world
Island nations and continents that are more remote and isolated can carry on a fairly normal existence with far less disease due to being more isolated and far less travel to those nations from endemic areas
China under-reports and uses their totalitarian regime to force isolation
The US over-reports and their open business first culture prevents isolation and promotes spread
I make no judgement statements as to which approach is best other than, as a US trained doctor and anthropologist, I think, overall, in the long run, a capitalist culture and competition is better for the nation and species than a repressive totalitarian one.
Do I think Hydroxychloroquine is a magic fix all that some grand illuminati is keeping from the world...........no. And the medical evidence supports my views on this one.
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I am not a doctor by all means. But it is time to put all the bullshit apart from politics and put things in my own hands. That is what I am trying to figure out. I know the chances and the made up stats from the media, but it is time I make my own choices. I know that you know that I was not challenging your intelligence one bit, but it gets frustrating what the real truth is. I see doctors have been fired for not following the agenda. Thank you for your input.
Doctors don't get fired for "not following agendas." There is no mass agenda. Each hospital and health care system is allowed to set practices for COVID and other diseases on their own based on available medical literature. I work for three different systems and see 3 different approaches to COVID. Each system develops its approach based on what their best Pulmonary and ID doctors decides the literature supports.
In 2 of the systems I work, no one restricts my treatments at all. I could use Hydroxychloroquine if I wanted to in those systems. I chose not to because my own review of the literature does not support it persey. That said, I have still used it a few times especially early in severe cases.
The third system I work in is a teaching hospital. They tend to function somewhat more like socialized medicine and are heavy evidence based decision making. As such, they tend to restrict our use of certain meds at least after the first initial dose and require specialist consults for further doses of certain meds.
In the first 2 systems I have lead the way in deciding what the best treatments for COVID really are and the best approach to treating COVID patients in the hospital.
In the teaching hospital I am not part of the "best practice" team that sets best treatments in this system.
It is my considered conclusion that none of this shit really works that well if you end up on the vent with COVID. Remdesivir, Hydroxy, Convaslcent Plasma, Monoclonal IgG, steroids. I think off all these, steroids likely works best.
I do think if anything does work, it works best the EARLIER you get it.
If you end up on the life support machine (vent) due to COVID you run about a 65 to 70% mortality rate no matter what we do at that point. Nothing seems to lower it once you are on the vent and all the tricks I do to keep people alive on the vent really just slow down the dying process and prolongs the suffering more than treat anything in about 75% of the cases.
Honestly it is a very depressing disease to treat as a critical care physician. High burnout rate disease for doctors, nurses, respiratory therapist.
The COLD HARD TRUTH ABOUT COVID, take the politics out, NOTHING REALLY TREATS IT IF YOU GET THE BAD VERSION, and nothing will stop or slow it down indefinitely. Like all pandemics, it will run its course and kill off 5-15 million or so people and then burn out into a more rare isolated infection with less virulence. In the grand scheme of things COVID remains a WONDERFULLY MILD pandemic by historical standards, thank God, since most don't get severe cases. It just sucks for those of us that have to try and treat the 1% or so that get really severe cases.
Honestly, the vents and life support are prolonging the life of infectious people that are going to die most likely anyway, so all I'm really doing is prolonging suffering, exposing people to infection, and drawing out the pandemic. In a big picture point of view, as an Anthropologist/Military Physician with a better understanding of mass causality situations and pandemics, we'd do better to just let those that don't get better and come off the vent in a week die by withdrawing them from the vent and just making them comfortable. Then we could use the hospital beds and ICU beds for those we can actually help, increasing access, and keeping the nation open and functioning better. This would all be over quicker if we did that.
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Anyone changed your Depends lately? I'm smelling something and it's coming from your direction.
Thank you for being honest. And first of all. Thank you for your service coming from a military family myself. I just get tired from the bullshit.
Me too.
Oh, and the doctors that got fired get fired because they not just go against the treatment approach, which is generally allowed, but its for statements they then make about all this and their hospitals on social media.
It's like when players go to social media to criticize coaches and GM's, they hate that.
What a mess. I have always figured I can cure anything that comes at me with things that I grow in my yard and I have tinchers to prove it. The only thing I buy is honey.
What is a tincher? I looked it up, I saw that it was a brand of automobile 110 years ago, and slang for heavy Irish drinkers. Did you mean tinctures? Because those are herbal extracts, and in this context, makes a lot more sense.
Yes. Sorry I figured everyone knew what they were and didnt worry about spelling.
Well, I thought that was where you were going, but I am not a farmer so was willing to accept that it might be something else that I didn't know about.
90 proof or 90% as in 9/10ths of the liquid is vodka? Because to me that would be Elderberry flavored vodka. Which might be very tasty.
Dang. 90 proof. I need to quit assuming people will know what I mean when talking to city folk. Moonshine works better, but I bet you cant go to your local feed store to buy it like here.
IMO the 90-10 vodka to elderberry ratio sounds interesting. Maybe even 95-5, just enough to give the vodka a little of the elderberry sweetness. Heck, that might be commercially viable. Flavored vodkas are all the rage these days.
