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If you truly believe there are “FAR left” posters here, you are in more of a bubble than I realized.

You are dealing, at most, with left-of-center moderates who are patiently spoon-feeding reality to you.
LOLOLOLOL BS A left of center moderate would be ALL OVER Brandon for f'ing up this Country in short order. Can you show me where that has happened?
 
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If you truly believe there are “FAR left” posters here, you are in more of a bubble than I realized.

You are dealing, at most, with left-of-center moderates who are patiently spoon-feeding reality to you.
Whatever you are it ain't moderate and certainly not self actualized.
 
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Remove Trump related issues, what far left positions are posted here?

universal healthcare
New monitarism
Open borders

Other?
Why would we remove Trump related issues?


Here is the fun part. You don’t even realize you are left of center. But I will indulge, assuming you mean….posted or commented about on the board in general. In addition to the ones you already mentioned.

Free speech
2nd amendment
Diversity
Gay marriage
CRT
Support for BLM
Support for riots last summer
Support for Joe Bidens self admitted Liberal world order
Support for Kamala harris who was rated farther left than elizabeth warren and bernie sanders.
Support for marxism
Support for a Jan 6th committee (trump related, but should give every American pause) that is literally something you would expect to see in a communist country
Support for defunding police
Supporting America as having systemic racism issues.
Supporting socialism
convicted felon rights
Support for green new deal
Forced vaccines
Mask mandates



Shall I continue? The fact you don’t see this stuff reiterates what I said about yourself and being a Rino earlier. The center, has moved so far left, it’s nowhere near center any longer. Apathy is a bitch.

All that said, I do find it interesting that you question what far left things are discussed, but do not question what far right things are discussed. Very interesting. On par I suppose.
 
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To me, far left would be things like replacing the police with “community enforcement,” total gun confiscation, reparations for slavery, acting like we’re the crazy ones for objecting to transgender women athletes playing women’s sports, or abortions on demand for any reason, even up to the day before the baby’s due.

Being a “NeverTrumper,” voting for Biden to get rid of Trump, and being unconvinced by Trump’s claims of a stolen election, are not “far left.”

We do have people on this board who have espoused the crap from your first paragraph. Like I said, they don't post often. I have very little doubt that Ray supports at least some or all of it. Not sure though...I can't read.
 
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I'm not exaggerating when I say that I don't think I've ever encountered a group of people so full of themselves with overconfidence, delusion, unjustified self-righteousness, and distorted, cultish groupthink as most of the posters on this subboard. "Echo chamber" doesn't come close to describing it. This board has helped me understand how pogroms and genocides get started.

Good on you for fighting the good fight, @RayGravesGhost, but know that you are chasing windmills trying to help these reprobates see reality.
LMAO……
 
No, it's not. Obama or Biden have not been attacked by the media as Trump has been.

That's because trump is an asshole

The other 2 presidents you mentioned were not

Even Bush (who was vilified by the MSM) was left alone outside of his blunders in the WH. Why is Trump's character always being attacked as opposed to his policies?

What ****ing planet do you live on?

You want to talk trump policies?

Let's start with his "trade war" with China & his subsidizing of the agricultural system

Not only did he lose on his trade tariff battle but he had to give handouts to the famers of America

Talk about a liberal commie agenda LOL

It goes way deeper than that. Trump unified all sides of the conservative movement (evangelicals, Libertarians, and fiscally conservative voters).

trump unified the republican party with Russia LMAO
 
If you can show me evidence of a pogrom or genocide ANYWHERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD that was enacted by a right wing regime, authoritarian or otherwise, I will leave the board til August.

And a heads up, Fascist Italy, NazI Germany, and Francoist Spain don't count as right wing, and I don't care who says so.

@Uniformed_ReRe


Does Apartheid South Africa count?

See ya in 30 days
 
How much do you want to bet? Put up or shut up, son

How much you want to bet?

ron appears to have decided to shut up instead of put up

So I would suggest a bet of $100 that trump is indicted

I'm your Huckleberry. Board bet, whoever loses, leaves the board for a month.

An indictment that leads to a TRIAL of Donald J. Trump, I will be gone like a freight train for 30 calendar days.

I don't care whether you leave the board or not

$100 if trump is indicted
 
Remove Trump related issues, what far left positions are posted here?

universal healthcare

Universal healthcare was a republican creation

New monitarism

New monetarism? Huh? What exactly are you talking about?

Open borders

Other?

The "open borders" idea is so far leftist that the Koch brothers support it

And EVERYONE know how far left the Koch family is... LOL

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/the-case-for-open-borders
The Case for Open Borders
In a new graphic-nonfiction book, a libertarian economist conjures an alternative reality in which immigration is unlimited all over the world.
By Zoey Poll
February 20, 2020

Partly for this reason, Charles Koch has come out in favor of open borders. (In 2015, Bernie Sanders characterized the idea as “a Koch brothers proposal” designed to “bring in people who will work for two or three dollars an hour.”)
 
Uninformed: a few questions:

1. Do you believe that we should have strong borders / build a wall?

2. Do you believe in defunding the police and reallocating Monies ro potentially higher impact social programs?

3. Do you believe that masks and mandates were critical to very important after vaccines were available?

4. Do you believe that every voter should have to show a government issued ID?

5. Do you believe that CRT should
Be taught in middle school or earlier?

I know you didn't ask me but I would like to respond

1. No. Its stupid. Walls that don't work & cost a lot of money are stupid

2. No. I believe on police reform though

3. I don't even know what your question means. What are you asking?

4. Yes. I think you mean a government issued picture ID but maybe you don't (I dunno) I mean the current voter registration card is required to vote and its government issued right?

I don't think you should be able to cherrypick which government IDs you approve of.
And I think all voter registration cards should be pictured IDs


5. No. CRT isn't taught anywhere but law school.

I do believe we should teach actual US history and no topic should be banned by law
 
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Does Apartheid South Africa count?

See ya in 30 days
No, it doesn't.

Pogrom : a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, particularly Jews.

Apartheid: a system of institutionalised racial oppression that existed in South Africa and South West Africa from 1948 until the early 1990s. This system denied non-white South Africans basic human rights, such as the right to vote.

The only genocide in South Africa is current. You know, white South African farmers being slaughtered.

Reckon I'll stick around, dumbass.

You thought us dumb rednecks misspelled "program" didn't you. Moron.
 
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Universal healthcare was a republican creation
Bullshit.


The "open borders" idea is so far leftist that the Koch brothers support it

And EVERYONE know how far left the Koch family is... LOL

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/the-case-for-open-borders
The Case for Open Borders
In a new graphic-nonfiction book, a libertarian economist conjures an alternative reality in which immigration is unlimited all over the world.
By Zoey Poll
February 20, 2020

Partly for this reason, Charles Koch has come out in favor of open borders. (In 2015, Bernie Sanders characterized the idea as “a Koch brothers proposal” designed to “bring in people who will work for two or three dollars an hour.”)
The Koch brothers a globalists. Your quote exemplifies their opposition to strong borders and trade.
 
No, it doesn't.

Pogrom : a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, particularly Jews.

Apartheid: a system of institutionalised racial oppression that existed in South Africa and South West Africa from 1948 until the early 1990s. This system denied non-white South Africans basic human rights, such as the right to vote.

The only genocide in South Africa is current. You know, white South African farmers being slaughtered.

evil wayz doesn't believe black people were killed during apartheid... LOL


Reckon I'll stick around, dumbass.

You thought us dumb rednecks misspelled "program" didn't you. Moron.

show me evidence of a pogrom or genocide ANYWHERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD


The use of "or" means that either case would satisfy

So who really gives a F if about pogrom if genocide satisfies...



How about "apartheid" in Namibia? That was PRE-Nazi Germany.

Does that "count"? LOL
 
Leave the board for 30 days? LOL
You consider that a bet?

evil wayz plays in the kiddie end of the pool

Grow some balls and be a man
Put some money up or STFU
I'm not betting you a hundred dollars I could LITERALLY spend on anything when I know that you're an intellectually dishonest asshole who wouldn't pay up.
 
Bullshit.


Do you even read the stuff you post? Or is that you can't read?

This dumbass line of attack(lying) is decades old...been around since 1943

From your posted article

Opposition to this bill was enormous and the antagonists launched a scathing red baiting attack on the committee saying that one of its key policy analysts, I.S. Falk, was a conduit between the International Labor Organization (ILO) in Switzerland and the United States government. The ILO was red-baited as “an awesome political machine bent on world domination.” They even went so far was to suggest that the United States Social Security board functioned as an ILO subsidiary.

Although the Wagner-Murray-Dingell Bill generated extensive national debates, with the intensified opposition, the bill never passed by Congress despite its reintroduction every session for 14 years! Had it passed, the Act would have established compulsory national health insurance funded by payroll taxes.




What I was referring to was that in the modern era it was the Heritage organization's idea and Mitt Romney implemented it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...ented-the-individual-mandate/?sh=77163e536187
How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate
Avik RoyForbes Staff
The ApothecaryContributor Group
Oct 20, 2011,08:26am EDT

This came up at Tuesday’s Western Republican Leadership Conference Debate, where Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich tussled on the question:

ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

GINGRICH: That's not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.
ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: And you never supported them?




GINGRICH: I agree with them, but I'm just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasn't true.

(CROSSTALK)

ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?
GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?
ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That's what I'm saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.



The Koch brothers a globalists. Your quote exemplifies their opposition to strong borders and trade

So what?
Does that mean they're not right-wing...Dare I say EXTREME right-wing?
 
evil wayz doesn't believe black people were killed during apartheid... LOL
Black people are killed in America, basically for the crime of being black, all the time. That doesn't make it genocide. There were plenty of people white and black killed for being black or white during apartheid. Apartheid is a political system of oppression.

show me evidence of a pogrom or genocide ANYWHERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD


The use of "or" means that either case would satisfy

So who really gives a F if about pogrom if genocide satisfies...
It doesn't qualify as genocide, so there's that.
How about "apartheid" in Namibia? That was PRE-Nazi Germany.

Does that "count"? LOL
No.

WORDS HAVE MEANING.

I have already explained to you why Apartheid isn't genocide.

Genocide: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

-Cide, from the latin caeda, meaning "act of killing"

If you aren't trying to destroy a race, party, or ethnicity by wiping them out, it's not genocide.

Violating civil rights is only genocide according to the UN.
 
I'm not betting you a hundred dollars I could LITERALLY spend on anything when I know that you're an intellectually dishonest asshole who wouldn't pay up.


evil wayz transalation: I don't have the 100 bucks ...so I choose not to put up...I'll just shut up

trumpanzees have no real convictions or beliefs...
they just fling poo because they enjoy flinging poo
 
Leave the board for 30 days? LOL
You consider that a bet?

evil wayz plays in the kiddie end of the pool

Grow some balls and be a man
Put some money up or STFU
Little dickey is mad AF! Double posting! You can smell the epic fail and defeat. Trump will be indicted?
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Black people are killed in America, basically for the crime of being black, all the time. That doesn't make it genocide. There were plenty of people white and black killed for being black or white during apartheid. Apartheid is a political system of oppression.

WTF are you talking about?
Apartheid stupid ...stay on topic.



It doesn't qualify as genocide, so there's that.

No.

WORDS HAVE MEANING.

I have already explained to you why Apartheid isn't genocide.

Genocide: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

-Cide, from the latin caeda, meaning "act of killing"

If you aren't trying to destroy a race, party, or ethnicity by wiping them out, it's not genocide.

Violating civil rights is only genocide according to the UN.


That's what was exactly happening under Apartheid you idiot
 
WTF are you talking about?
Apartheid stupid ...stay on topic.
You said that black people were killed under apartheid. So?
Apartheid is a systematic oppression of civil rights. They still needed the black people around, or they would have wiped them out. Hence, not genocide.

That's what was exactly happening under Apartheid you idiot
No, it wasn't. See above.
 
Little dickey is mad AF! Double posting! You can smell the epic fail and defeat. Trump will be indicted?
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Would you like to bet that trump gets indicted? $100

So far not one trumpanzee on this board is willing to take the bet


But they sure are quick to cry "Put up or Shut up"

As usual they're full of crap
 
Would you like to bet that trump gets indicted? $100

So far not one trumpanzee on this board is willing to take the bet


But they sure are quick to cry "Put up or Shut up"

As usual they're full of crap
Nobody is going to make a silly bet with a fraud the likes of yourself. BScuck swore he would leave if he got caught lying. He literally lies on a weekly basis and is still here. Nobody is stupid enough to take your empty bet when your pockets and pitiful soul are empty. Oh, and how is that Kap comeback coming along?

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Do you even read the stuff you post? Or is that you can't read?

This dumbass line of attack(lying) is decades old...been around since 1943

From your posted article

Opposition to this bill was enormous and the antagonists launched a scathing red baiting attack on the committee saying that one of its key policy analysts, I.S. Falk, was a conduit between the International Labor Organization (ILO) in Switzerland and the United States government. The ILO was red-baited as “an awesome political machine bent on world domination.” They even went so far was to suggest that the United States Social Security board functioned as an ILO subsidiary.

Although the Wagner-Murray-Dingell Bill generated extensive national debates, with the intensified opposition, the bill never passed by Congress despite its reintroduction every session for 14 years! Had it passed, the Act would have established compulsory national health insurance funded by payroll taxes.




What I was referring to was that in the modern era it was the Heritage organization's idea and Mitt Romney implemented it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...ented-the-individual-mandate/?sh=77163e536187
How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate
Avik RoyForbes Staff
The ApothecaryContributor Group
Oct 20, 2011,08:26am EDT

This came up at Tuesday’s Western Republican Leadership Conference Debate, where Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich tussled on the question:







ROMNEY: And you never supported them?




GINGRICH: I agree with them, but I'm just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasn't true.

(CROSSTALK)

ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?
GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?
ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That's what I'm saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.





So what?
Does that mean they're not right-wing...Dare I say EXTREME right-wing?
I'm going to need a definition of what you think universal healthcare means.

this is the entire Heritage foundation proposal, and based on my cursory examination of it, the only "Universal" healthcare proposal i see is the mandate that all Americans have health insurance.

 
You said that black people were killed under apartheid. So?
Apartheid is a systematic oppression of civil rights. They still needed the black people around, or they would have wiped them out. Hence, not genocide.

You mean its only genocide if its successful? LOL

You have to be one of the dumbest people I've ever encountered

No, it wasn't. See above.

You can start you self imposed 30 day ban when ever you like LOL


https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/11...-humanity-for-the-first-time-in-south-africa/

Apartheid charged as crime against humanity for first time in South Africa
Esther Chihaavi | U. Nairobi School of Law, KE
NOVEMBER 26, 2021 01:43:13 PM


The United Nations General Assembly declared apartheid a crime against humanity in 1966. The Apartheid Convention of 1973 made it a crime in its entirety. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also determined that apartheid, as a system of systematic racial discrimination and separation, was a crime against humanity, with the South African government and security forces being the major perpetrators between 1960 and 1994.

On February 15, 1987, the Security Branch lured Eustice ‘Bimbo’ Madikela, Ntshingo Mataboge, Fanyana Nhlapo, and Zandisile Musi, members of the Congress of South African Students (COSAS), to a pumphouse in Krugersdorp. The pumphouse had been fitted with explosives, which the cops detonated once the four were inside. Except for Musi, who was gravely hurt, they were all killed.
 
Nobody is going to make a silly bet with a fraud the likes of yourself. BScuck swore he would leave if he got caught lying. He literally lies on a weekly basis and is still here.

WTF does that have to do with me? LMAO

Nobody is stupid enough to take your empty bet when your pockets and pitiful soul are empty. Oh, and how is that Kap comeback coming along?

navigator translation: Even though the trumpanzees on here made the challenge "Put up or Shut up" when the challenge was accepted they all ran away with excuses...

LOL

Is there a clearer example of self-admission to hypocrisy?


Someone send out a silver alert for Capt Ron...that bitch hasn't been seen since he issued the challenge. LMAO
 
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Would you like to bet that trump gets indicted? $100

So far not one trumpanzee on this board is willing to take the bet


But they sure are quick to cry "Put up or Shut up"

As usual they're full of crap
Will one of you people with money please take this bet so he'll shut up?
You mean its only genocide if its successful? LOL

You have to be one of the dumbest people I've ever encountered



You can start you self imposed 30 day ban when ever you like LOL


https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/11...-humanity-for-the-first-time-in-south-africa/

Apartheid charged as crime against humanity for first time in South Africa
Esther Chihaavi | U. Nairobi School of Law, KE
NOVEMBER 26, 2021 01:43:13 PM


The United Nations General Assembly declared apartheid a crime against humanity in 1966. The Apartheid Convention of 1973 made it a crime in its entirety. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) also determined that apartheid, as a system of systematic racial discrimination and separation, was a crime against humanity, with the South African government and security forces being the major perpetrators between 1960 and 1994.

On February 15, 1987, the Security Branch lured Eustice ‘Bimbo’ Madikela, Ntshingo Mataboge, Fanyana Nhlapo, and Zandisile Musi, members of the Congress of South African Students (COSAS), to a pumphouse in Krugersdorp. The pumphouse had been fitted with explosives, which the cops detonated once the four were inside. Except for Musi, who was gravely hurt, they were all killed.
What did I just say about the UN definition not counting.

There's an easy way to settle this:

@Uniformed_ReRe
@BSC911

Using the following definitions:

Pogrom: a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, particularly Jews.

Genocide: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

Apartheid: racial segregation, specifically a former policy of segregation and political, social, and economic discrimination against the nonwhite majority in the Republic of South Africa

Is apartheid a pogrom or genocide?

If EITHER of them say it is, I'm gone like a freight train.
 
Will one of you people with money please take this bet so he'll shut up?

What did I just say about the UN definition not counting.

There's an easy way to settle this:

@Uniformed_ReRe
@BSC911

Using the following definitions:

Pogrom: a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, particularly Jews.

Genocide: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

Apartheid: racial segregation, specifically a former policy of segregation and political, social, and economic discrimination against the nonwhite majority in the Republic of South Africa

Is apartheid a pogrom or genocide?

If EITHER of them say it is, I'm gone like a freight train.
Not necessarily, although it can lead to it.
 
I'm going to need a definition of what you think universal healthcare means.

this is the entire Heritage foundation proposal, and based on my cursory examination of it, the only "Universal" healthcare proposal i see is the mandate that all Americans have health insurance.


After 30 years you're admitting to only a cursory examination of it?
(Pssst...that me be why you don't know it was a conservative idea BEFORE Obama)


From your article...

THE HERITAGE PLAN

Direct and indirect government assistance should be concentrated on those who need it most. * *

This proposed tax change also would have a dramatic effect on the current uninsured. Because it would target tax benefits to individuals, especially those with the greatest need, Americans who now lack the means to obtain insurance would have assistance - in some cases very generous assistance - in obtaining proper protection and defraying their out-of-pocket costs.


(This is the whole rationale behind the premium subsidies in the ACA)
 
After 30 years you're admitting to only a cursory examination of it?
(Pssst...that me be why you don't know it was a conservative idea BEFORE Obama)

Yes
From your article...

THE HERITAGE PLAN

Direct and indirect government assistance should be concentrated on those who need it most. * *

This proposed tax change also would have a dramatic effect on the current uninsured. Because it would target tax benefits to individuals, especially those with the greatest need, Americans who now lack the means to obtain insurance would have assistance - in some cases very generous assistance - in obtaining proper protection and defraying their out-of-pocket costs.


(This is the whole rationale behind the premium subsidies in the ACA)
And the mandate that penalized people for not having insurance, although there's no financial penalty any longer. Yeah, that's bullshit.

I concede your point.
 
WTF does that have to do with me? LMAO



navigator translation: Even though the trumpanzees on here made the challenge "Put up or Shut up" when the challenge was accepted they all ran away with excuses...

LOL

Is there a clearer example of self-admission to hypocrisy?


Someone send out a silver alert for Capt Ron...that bitch hasn't been seen since he issued the challenge. LMAO
I would be willing to bet my pension you wouldn't say that to his face. There is quite a safe haven tucked away in your basement.
 
That's because trump is an asshole

The other 2 presidents you mentioned were not



What ****ing planet do you live on?

You want to talk trump policies?

Let's start with his "trade war" with China & his subsidizing of the agricultural system

Not only did he lose on his trade tariff battle but he had to give handouts to the famers of America

Talk about a liberal commie agenda LOL



trump unified the republican party with Russia LMAO
That's President Trump to you, Sheila.
 
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