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Duties & Pay of an Assistant Director of Player Personnel for Gators - 9 on staff

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Former linebacker Jamar Chaney played his final collegiate season under Dan Mullen at Mississippi State in 2009 before embarking on a five-year NFL career. After he hung up his cleats for the final time, he took over at St. Lucie (Fla.) West Centennial High School, his alma mater, as head coach in 2016.

Wanting to be an on-field collegiate coach someday, he reached out to Mullen in early 2019 and asked for an opportunity to join Florida’s staff. Mullen obliged and hired Chaney as an Assistant Director of Player Personnel, a position that focuses primarily on recruiting. Chaney left Gainesville last week to take the next step in his coaching journey and become a Senior Defensive Analyst at Mississippi State.

I have never been clear on what someone in this position did. Excellent article -
https://insidethegators.com/s/2204/chaney-reflects-on-his-time-on-floridas-recruiting-support-staff

Average salaries for University of Georgia Assistant Director: $99210.

The average salary for a assistant director is $56,544 per year in the United States and $1,325 profit sharing per year.
https://www.indeed.com/career/assistant-director/salaries


University of Florida Assistant Director Salaries
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12 SalariesUpdated Jun 7, 2020

The typical University of Florida Assistant Director salary is $62,090. Assistant Director salaries at University of Florida can range from $46,118 - $103,945. This estimate is based upon 10 University of Florida Assistant Director salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Assistant Director at University of Florida can expect to make an average total pay of $62,090 . See all Assistant Director salaries to learn how this stacks up in the market.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/University-of-Florida-Assistant-Director-Salaries-E3017_D_KO22,40.htm#:~:text=The typical University of Florida,can range from $46,118 - $103,945.

Average salaries for University of Georgia Assistant Director: $99,210.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Un...istant-Director-Salaries-E25403_D_KO22,40.htm
 
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Members of the Recruiting staff & their pay not regulated by NCAA !

National championships are won long before the whistle blows in college football, fine-tuned expertise through long-standing relationships built inside living rooms during the courting process. The lifeblood of a top-level program that reloads more than it rebuilds, you've heard the recruiting adage heard often — and it bears repeating.

If you look at college football's previous 10 national champions, all of those programs signed at least one Top 10 class per the 247Sports Composite in the three years leading up to their title year and most signed several. Elite recruiting brings immediate depth and provides coaching staffs an opportunity to develop premiere talent into productive, difference-making players.

That's why the best of the best are spending several millions annually on making sure their sales pitches are delivered in exhaustive fashions. Recruiting budgets are not created equal and for the most part, programs who spend the most on travel yield the best results.

College football's 10 biggest spenders in recruiting
  1. Georgia ($2.6 million)
  2. Alabama ($2.3 million)
  3. Tennessee ($2 million) ...
  4. Texas ($1.8 million) ...
  5. Clemson ($1.79 million) ...
  6. Texas A&M ($1.7 million) ...
  7. Florida State ($1.5 million) ...
  8. Michigan ($1.39 million) ...
  9. Penn State ($1.36 million)
  10. LSU ( $1.2 million)
Five of the Top 10 spenders are in the SEC; four of the Top 10 are on our football schedule every damn year !

https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...-State-Tennessee-Texas-143656317/#143656317_1


Now you know why Tennessee is pulling away from us in recruiting !
 
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Members of the Recruiting staff & their pay not regulated by NCAA !

National championships are won long before the whistle blows in college football, fine-tuned expertise through long-standing relationships built inside living rooms during the courting process. The lifeblood of a top-level program that reloads more than it rebuilds, you've heard the recruiting adage heard often — and it bears repeating.

If you look at college football's previous 10 national champions, all of those programs signed at least one Top 10 class per the 247Sports Composite in the three years leading up to their title year and most signed several. Elite recruiting brings immediate depth and provides coaching staffs an opportunity to develop premiere talent into productive, difference-making players.

That's why the best of the best are spending several millions annually on making sure their sales pitches are delivered in exhaustive fashions. Recruiting budgets are not created equal and for the most part, programs who spend the most on travel yield the best results.

College football's 10 biggest spenders in recruiting
  1. Georgia ($2.6 million)
  2. Alabama ($2.3 million)
  3. Tennessee ($2 million) ...
  4. Texas ($1.8 million) ...
  5. Clemson ($1.79 million) ...
  6. Texas A&M ($1.7 million) ...
  7. Florida State ($1.5 million) ...
  8. Michigan ($1.39 million) ...
  9. Penn State ($1.36 million)
  10. LSU ( $1.2 million)
Five of the Top 10 spenders are in the SEC; four of the Top 10 are on our football schedule every damn year !

https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...-State-Tennessee-Texas-143656317/#143656317_1


Now you know why Tennessee is pulling away from us in recruiting !

Tennessee has always spent more on recruiting. In fact, they used to be the #1 spender.

Do you know why? Because there is very little elite talent within driving distance of their campus. Our coaches drive to see kids, and, unless it's south Florida, drive back the same day. Tennessee coaches fly and stay overnight.

It's interesting that we are in the middle of a huge die-back in sports, with coaches taking pay cuts and budgets being slashed everywhere, and you are bitching because we are fiscally prudent. Kind of tone deaf in this environment, don't you think?
 
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Members of the Recruiting staff & their pay not regulated by NCAA !

National championships are won long before the whistle blows in college football, fine-tuned expertise through long-standing relationships built inside living rooms during the courting process. The lifeblood of a top-level program that reloads more than it rebuilds, you've heard the recruiting adage heard often — and it bears repeating.

If you look at college football's previous 10 national champions, all of those programs signed at least one Top 10 class per the 247Sports Composite in the three years leading up to their title year and most signed several. Elite recruiting brings immediate depth and provides coaching staffs an opportunity to develop premiere talent into productive, difference-making players.

That's why the best of the best are spending several millions annually on making sure their sales pitches are delivered in exhaustive fashions. Recruiting budgets are not created equal and for the most part, programs who spend the most on travel yield the best results.

College football's 10 biggest spenders in recruiting
  1. Georgia ($2.6 million)
  2. Alabama ($2.3 million)
  3. Tennessee ($2 million) ...
  4. Texas ($1.8 million) ...
  5. Clemson ($1.79 million) ...
  6. Texas A&M ($1.7 million) ...
  7. Florida State ($1.5 million) ...
  8. Michigan ($1.39 million) ...
  9. Penn State ($1.36 million)
  10. LSU ( $1.2 million)
Five of the Top 10 spenders are in the SEC; four of the Top 10 are on our football schedule every damn year !

https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...-State-Tennessee-Texas-143656317/#143656317_1


Now you know why Tennessee is pulling away from us in recruiting !
Tennessee is pulling away from UF in recruiting? As it stands right now they are 13th in the country in average star rating (Behind UF). They either need to spend even more money or they aren’t getting the bang for their buck. Or they have been bad for so so long they are having to spend tons of money to try and bring the football program back to where it was 20+ years ago.

And also to Lizerdgrads post they are in a position/location where they kind of have too. Not a lot of talent typically comes out of the state of Tennessee.
 
Former linebacker Jamar Chaney played his final collegiate season under Dan Mullen at Mississippi State in 2009 before embarking on a five-year NFL career. After he hung up his cleats for the final time, he took over at St. Lucie (Fla.) West Centennial High School, his alma mater, as head coach in 2016.

Wanting to be an on-field collegiate coach someday, he reached out to Mullen in early 2019 and asked for an opportunity to join Florida’s staff. Mullen obliged and hired Chaney as an Assistant Director of Player Personnel, a position that focuses primarily on recruiting. Chaney left Gainesville last week to take the next step in his coaching journey and become a Senior Defensive Analyst at Mississippi State.

I have never been clear on what someone in this position did. Excellent article -
https://insidethegators.com/s/2204/chaney-reflects-on-his-time-on-floridas-recruiting-support-staff

Average salaries for University of Georgia Assistant Director: $99210.

The average salary for a assistant director is $56,544 per year in the United States and $1,325 profit sharing per year.
https://www.indeed.com/career/assistant-director/salaries


University of Florida Assistant Director Salaries
Very High

Confidence

12 SalariesUpdated Jun 7, 2020

The typical University of Florida Assistant Director salary is $62,090. Assistant Director salaries at University of Florida can range from $46,118 - $103,945. This estimate is based upon 10 University of Florida Assistant Director salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Assistant Director at University of Florida can expect to make an average total pay of $62,090 . See all Assistant Director salaries to learn how this stacks up in the market.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/University-of-Florida-Assistant-Director-Salaries-E3017_D_KO22,40.htm#:~:text=The typical University of Florida,can range from $46,118 - $103,945.

Average salaries for University of Georgia Assistant Director: $99,210.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Un...istant-Director-Salaries-E25403_D_KO22,40.htm

If there is no limit on the number of assistant directors a team can have, then Georgia is not playing this very smart. Let's say you set a budget of a million dollars for your assistant directors. Georgia can hire 10, while we can hire 16 for the same price. Lots more hands to do the grunt work. But then, who ever said Dawgs were anything other than stupid?
 
It's interesting that we are in the middle of a huge die-back in sports, with coaches taking pay cuts and budgets being slashed everywhere, and you are bitching because we are fiscally prudent. Kind of tone deaf in this environment, don't you think?
LG89,

Perhaps I missed them, but I haven't seen notices of any pay cuts at Bama, UGA, LSU, aTm, Clemson, tOSU, Oklahoma, or Texas.

Tennessee is pulling away from UF in recruiting? As it stands right now they are 13th in the country in average star rating (Behind UF).

Paco,

Understand your point, but average star ratings vary greatly depending on who you choose - Rivals, 247, ESPN, whoever.

Also, it is not the only measurement of recruiting success. Realize that everyone has the right to pick the metric that best illustrates their point BUT -

I personally prefer the following Current 2021 Team Recruiting Rankings from -

247, based on their composite -
Tenn - 4th & Gators - 10th
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

Rivals -
Vols - 2nd & Gators - 5th
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2021/all-teams/Football

ESPN - (EDIT)
VOLS 4th; Gators 8th
http://insider.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings/_/class2021&date=null

The three most quoted / watched team recruiting rankings claim that Tenn has made enormous progress in recruiting This Year & currently rank Tenn higher than UF.

I also think most posters / readers on this board would agree that -
  1. the "final grade" for any recruiting class doesn't really show up for 2-3 years after they sign & actually make it to campus.
  2. Impact of transfers - where UF & Mullen have excelled - must now be taken into account.
  3. Sign & place with Black & Hammond may actually happen forcing another adjustment in recruiting rankings.
So, still early days yet with Mullen & UF in recruiting.

If there is no limit on the number of assistant directors a team can have, then Georgia is not playing this very smart. Let's say you set a budget of a million dollars for your assistant directors. Georgia can hire 10, while we can hire 16 for the same price. Lots more hands to do the grunt work. But then, who ever said Dawgs were anything other than stupid?

LG89;

Agree with you on this one; when I found out what UGA was paying Asst Directors,

I fell out !


Spending money doesn't always guarantee good results; but when you must compete with schools that spend more, doing more with less gets old quickly !

The price of an SEC football championship continues to go up !

NCAA rules allow five staff categories for football
  • on-field asst coaches - 10
  • strength and conditioning coaches - 5
  • graduate assistants coaches - 4

Support Staff
  • football operations - unlimited
  • off-field/recruiting - unlimited

In recent years, support staff members have grown to include so-called analysts, consultants, player relations and player personnel types -- even volunteers.

In theory, NCAA doesn't allow support staff to have interaction with players on the field for games or practice (during football season only ?).

But what about "voluntary" off-season summer workouts ?

Per NCAA regulations players can't be supervised by an on the field Asst Coach;. BUT several former players have posted that this is often ignored. Can a support staff member tape and / or coach summer workouts & then transmit information to / from the position coach ?

If this loop hole exists, Saban is already using it !

Schools with highest support staff numbers in the most recent NCAA Survey -
Georgia (23)
Clemson (22)
Michigan (22)
Texas (22)
Alabama (20).
Notre Dame (19).
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...all-staff-sizes-survey-shows-inconsistencies/

Mullen's recruiting not the worst & certainly better than Jim, "Shark Boy", McElwain ! - I started to insert the picture, but at the last minute, I had an attack of good taste. LOL


Varies from year-to-year, but in most years, IMO, Gators are still behind the schools listed above in recruiting. Where we seem to get beat most often is OL & RB.

Gators have only signed 1 RB & 1 Transfer since Mullen & Knox have been here.Both of these backs untested & Lingard coming off a severe injury.

Can't put all the blame for RB recruiting on Knox. Until Hevesy & his Asst Director sign & build a reliable OL - year after year ! Top RBs will ignore us.

Hoping that Sam Pittman going to Arkansas will change UGA's OL recruiting.

Gators haven't beaten UGA or won the SEC East in 3 years & now when we appear to have a favorable match-up to do so, no one can guarantee that we will even have a CFB season.

Sucks !
 
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LG89,

Perhaps I missed them, but I haven't seen notices of any pay cuts at Bama, UGA, LSU, aTm, Clemson, tOSU, Oklahoma, or Texas.



Paco,

Understand your point, but average star ratings vary greatly depending on who you choose - Rivals, 247, ESPN, whoever.

Also, it is not the only measurement of recruiting success. Realize that everyone has the right to pick the metric that best illustrates their point BUT -

I personally prefer the following Current 2021 Team Recruiting Rankings from -

247, based on their composite -
Tenn - 4th & Gators - 10th
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

Rivals -
Vols - 2nd & Gators - 5th
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2021/all-teams/Football

The two most quoted / watched team recruiting rankings claim that Tenn has made enormous progress in recruiting This Year & currently rank Tenn higher than UF.

I also think most posters / readers on this board would agree that -
  1. the "final grade" for any recruiting class doesn't really show up for 2-3 years after they sign & actually make it to campus.
  2. Impact of transfers - where UF & Mullen have excelled - must now be taken into account.
  3. Sign & place with Black & Hammond may actually happen forcing another adjustment in recruiting rankings.
So, still early days yet with Mullen & UF in recruiting.



LG89;

Agree with you on this one; when I found out what UGA was paying Asst Directors,

I fell out !


Spending money doesn't always guarantee good results; but when you must compete with schools that spend more, doing more with less gets old quickly !

The price of an SEC football championship continues to go up !

NCAA rules allow five staff categories for football
  • on-field asst coaches - 10
  • strength and conditioning - 5
  • graduate assistants - 4

Support Staff
  • football operations - unlimited
  • off-field/recruiting - unlimited

In recent years, support staff members have grown to include so-called analysts, consultants, player relations and player personnel types -- even volunteers.

In theory, NCAA doesn't allow support staff to have interaction with players on the field for games or practice (during football season only ?).

But what about "voluntary" off-season summer workouts ?

Per NCAA regulations players can't be supervised by an on the field Asst Coach;. BUT several former players have posted that this is often ignored. Can a support staff member tape and / or coach summer workouts & then transmit information to / from the position coach ?

If this loop hole exists, Saban is already using it !

Schools with highest support staff numbers in the most recent NCAA Survey -
Georgia (23)
Clemson (22)
Michigan (22)
Texas (22)
Alabama (20).
Notre Dame (19).
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...all-staff-sizes-survey-shows-inconsistencies/

Mullen's recruiting not the worst & certainly better than Jim, "Shark Boy", McElwain ! - I started to insert the picture, but at the last minute, I had an attack of good taste. LOL

Varies from year-to-year, but in most years, IMO, Gators are still behind the schools listed above in recruiting. Where we seem to get beat most often is OL & RB.

Gators have only signed 1 RB & 1 Transfer since Mullen & Knox have been here.Both of these backs untested & Lingard coming off a severe injury.

Can't put all the blame for RB recruiting on Knox. Until Hevesy & his Asst Director sign & build a reliable OL - year after year ! Top RBs will ignore us.

Hoping that Sam Pittman going to Arkansas will change UGA's OL recruiting.

Gators haven't beaten UGA or won the SEC East in 3 years & now when we appear to have a favorable match-up to do so, no one can guarantee that we will even have a CFB season.

Sucks !

It's coming.

https://www.insider.com/college-sports-programs-cut-due-to-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-7
 

LG89,

I read the article you linked to. I agree that without the revenues football provides, many schools will have financial difficulty funding all of their sports programs..

Unfortunately the Univ Florida is a founding member of the SEC. I don't feel that you can generalize how a Power Five, Land Grant, Public University in the Deep South will react based upon what has happened at the Univ of Cincinnati.

All of the above written before I got off my ass & did my home work !

My first thought was that the Univ Cincinnati was a small private school only slightly larger than Jacksonville University.

If that were the case, comparing their athletic programs to the Univ of Florida would be ludicrous.

Ignorance is Bliss; I was way wrong !

Luckily, I decided to look them up to avoid looking like an an idiot!


The University of Cincinnati is a member of the American Athletic Conference (The American), which from 1979 to 2013 was known as the Big East Conference.

The University of Cincinnati (UC or Cincinnati) is a public research university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Founded in 1819 as Cincinnati College, it is the oldest institution of higher education in Cincinnati and has an annual enrollment of over 44,000 students, making it the second largest[7] university in Ohio - tOSU is the largest.
It is part of the University System of Ohio, with four major campuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cincinnati

School Enrollments
Ohio State University
Columbus, OH - 61,170
University of Cincinnati Main Campus Cincinnati, OH - 37,886
Ohio University Main Campus Athens, OH - 28,480
Kent State University at Kent, OH - 28,122

LG89 you could end up being right, but I don't think so..

I think that the State Legislatures in the Deep South will bail out the athletic programs of their various state universities be they SEC, ACC, or Big 12 Members.

Some schools in the Deep South may try to disband non-revenue producing sports which basically leaves almost all women's sports, and everything except football & basketball for men - maybe some baseball.

Unfortunately, Title IX probably won't allow that.

"What is Title IX? Athletic programs are considered educational programs and activities. Title IX gives women athletes the right to equal opportunity in sports in educational institutions that receive federal funds, from elementary schools to colleges and universities."

Cutting men's programs but not womens' programs (which are protected by Title IX) would probably be reverse discrimination & illegal.
 
LG89,

I read the article you linked to. I agree that without the revenues football provides, many schools will have financial difficulty funding all of their sports programs..

Cutting men's programs but not womens' programs (which are protected by Title IX) would probably be reverse discrimination & illegal.

Jeff -
Good post, but the fist sentence should read: without the revenues football provides, all schools will have financial impossibility of funding any of their sports programs (with the sometimes exception of basketball).

You last sentence isn't quote exactly right either. It's not that women's sports are protected by Title IX, it's that it requires EQUAL opportunity. Thus, you could cut some women's scholarships/programs, as long as you cut an equal number of men's scholarships.
 
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Jeff -
Good post, but the fist sentence should read: without the revenues football provides, all schools will have financial impossibility of funding any of their sports programs (with the sometimes exception of basketball).

You last sentence isn't quote exactly right either. It's not that women's sports are protected by Title IX, it's that it requires EQUAL opportunity. Thus, you could cut some women's scholarships/programs, as long as you cut an equal number of men's scholarships.

Gray,

Thanks for the clarity on Title IX

Agree that no football causes major problems for all college athletic departments. IMO, how major, as the articles below seem to state, will vary from school to school.

Barry Alvarez, now AD at Wisconsin, says the whole athletic department (if no football) is at risk !

"...Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez is warning that the school's athletic department could be in danger if the 2020 college football season is canceled.

In an open letter to fans Thursday, Alvarez said the university could lose more than $100 million if the upcoming campaign doesn't take place."
https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news...epartment-at-risk-if-football-season-canceled

Gators, according to this article, don't appear to be in quite so bad a shape financially.

"...In what may be a corresponding move to a hire (Paul Pasqualoni) that head coach Dan Mullen reportedly made earlier this week, the Florida Gators are bringing in Garrick McGee as a defensive analyst, according to The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman. McGee, the former head coach at UAB (2012-13), has also served as an offensive coordinator at Illinois (2016-17), Louisville (2014-15), Arkansas (2010-11) and Northwestern (2006-07).

Feldman reports that McGee, 47, will join the Gators as an analyst under defensive coordinator Todd Grantham. McGee was Louisville’s offensive coordinator at the same time Grantham ran the defensive side of the football.

Both McGee and Pasqualoni will have off-field roles with the Gators, reportedly using their respective expertise to help the opposite unit on the team. McGee, an offensive mind, will work with the defense to gameplan for opposing offenses whereas Pasqualoni will help Mullen break down defenses while also taking a “macro view” of the program.


The fact that the Gators are hiring McGee and Pasqualoni may speak positively toward the University Athletic Association’s financial situation.

During a time where athletic departments across the country are canceling sports and asking their coaches to take temporary salary cuts, Florida has done neither while simultaneously adding to Mullen’s staff."


I think both of these former Head Coaches will make more than even DAWG'S Asst Directors of Player Personnel.

https://www.onlygators.com/07/17/20...arrick-mcgee-as-defensive-analyst-per-report/

Adding, what I hope is a top tier analyst, to both Mullen's & Grantham's personal staffs will hopefully take some of the game day prep off both of them & keep them around longer.
 
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Gray,

Thanks for the clarity on Title IX

Agree that no football causes major problems for all college athletic departments. IMO, how major, as the articles below seem to state, will vary from school to school.

Barry Alvarez, now AD at Wisconsin, says the whole athletic department (if no football) is at risk !

"...Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez is warning that the school's athletic department could be in danger if the 2020 college football season is canceled.

In an open letter to fans Thursday, Alvarez said the university could lose more than $100 million if the upcoming campaign doesn't take place."
https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news...epartment-at-risk-if-football-season-canceled

Gators, according to this article, don't appear to be in quite so bad a shape financially.

"...In what may be a corresponding move to a hire (Paul Pasqualoni) that head coach Dan Mullen reportedly made earlier this week, the Florida Gators are bringing in Garrick McGee as a defensive analyst, according to The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman. McGee, the former head coach at UAB (2012-13), has also served as an offensive coordinator at Illinois (2016-17), Louisville (2014-15), Arkansas (2010-11) and Northwestern (2006-07).

Feldman reports that McGee, 47, will join the Gators as an analyst under defensive coordinator Todd Grantham. McGee was Louisville’s offensive coordinator at the same time Grantham ran the defensive side of the football.

Both McGee and Pasqualoni will have off-field roles with the Gators, reportedly using their respective expertise to help the opposite unit on the team. McGee, an offensive mind, will work with the defense to gameplan for opposing offenses whereas Pasqualoni will help Mullen break down defenses while also taking a “macro view” of the program.



The fact that the Gators are hiring McGee and Pasqualoni may speak positively toward the University Athletic Association’s financial situation.

During a time where athletic departments across the country are canceling sports and asking their coaches to take temporary salary cuts, Florida has done neither while simultaneously adding to Mullen’s staff."


I think both of these former Head Coaches will make more than even DAWG'S Asst Directors of Player Personnel.

https://www.onlygators.com/07/17/20...arrick-mcgee-as-defensive-analyst-per-report/

Adding, what I hope is a top tier analyst, to both Mullen's & Grantham's personal staffs will hopefully take some of the game day prep off both of them & keep them around longer.

This is why it's good to be fiscally prudent. It allows you to maintain during tough times.

There are schools out there that were already behind the 8 ball financially, like FSU. Running a deficit, paying off former coaches, trying to build bigger facilities than they can afford, if they lose a season, what do they do if they are 200 million in the hole? Can they declare bankruptcy?
 
If there is no limit on the number of assistant directors a team can have, then Georgia is not playing this very smart. Let's say you set a budget of a million dollars for your assistant directors. Georgia can hire 10, while we can hire 16 for the same price. Lots more hands to do the grunt work. But then, who ever said Dawgs were anything other than stupid?
Depends on how good those 10 can do as compared to those 16. Right now everything UGA is touching is gold and everything UF is touching is sheet.
 
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