Amazing video-analytics of poor run game, Trask throwing & TD run, & option pitch to Perine

[Jeff from Jax]

I have never heard of Murf Baldwin until I came across this video. He examines Kyle Trask throwing motion & progressions.

This video & his breakdown analysis explains some of the reasons for Gators' s**h*it running game !

Includes video of Trask's option pitch to Perine & Trask's TD run.

 

[instaGATOR]

Oozziee, and some others really need to watch this vid of the immobile Trask...

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

I've seen this guy's analysis before and he has a good way about him - I like his cadence, etc. It's like a buddy is at your house walking you through the plays.

 

[oozie7]

Oozziee, and some others really need to watch this vid of the immobile Trask...

I've never called Trask immobile but why stop now you're on a roll.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Oozziee, and some others really need to watch this vid of the immobile Trask...

Did you watch the video? Because while it shows good things about Mullen and Trask, I didn't see anything that makes him "mobile."

Unless your definition of a mobile QB is that he can't literally move.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Did you watch the video? Because while it shows good things about Mullen and Trask, I didn't see anything that makes him "mobile."

Unless your definition of a mobile QB is that he can't literally move.

Mine is that he's from a town in Southern Alabama.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Trask is as much of a runner as Franks. Which is to say not much. But he looks like he can move around in the pocket and buy time.

The question here is can Mullen install and call a West Coast offense. We seem to have the personnel for it. If not, and it has to be spread option, then he needs to go to Jones. But it would be great if he could manage to call them both, it would give teams twice as much to prepare for.

 

[instaGATOR]

I've never called Trask immobile but why stop now you're on a roll.

Did you watch the video? Because while it shows good things about Mullen and Trask, I didn't see anything that makes him "mobile."

Unless your definition of a mobile QB is that he can't literally move.

I'll leave it to you two football genius types to decide Trask's mobility,and competence to run an adjustable Mullen offense,,, since I'm not qualified to have or express an opinion...

 

[oozie7]

I'll leave it to you two football genius types to decide Trask's mobility,and competence to run an adjustable Mullen offense,,, since I'm not qualified to have or express an opinion...

No one is stopping you from having an opinion, but at least in my case your misrepresented my position. The issue for me isn’t with Trask, its with Mullen. If he adjusts his offense and goes pass first then yea in theory we’re probably better off. But nothing in Mullen’s history shows that. Even if you look back to last year the offense took off once Franks became a rushing threat. Trask is athletic enough to run for a few yards here and there but he’s not somebody defenses have to respect on read options, that’s all anybody is saying.

So either Mullen needs to change his offense to fit Trask and find other ways to run the ball or he’s gonna have to go to Jones. That’s on him.

 

[Dannygator1989]

No one is stopping you from having an opinion, but at least in my case your misrepresented my position. The issue for me isn’t with Trask, its with Mullen. If he adjusts his offense and goes pass first then yea in theory we’re probably better off. But nothing in Mullen’s history shows that. Even if you look back to last year the offense took off once Franks became a rushing threat. Trask is athletic enough to run for a few yards here and there but he’s not somebody defenses have to respect on read options, that’s all anybody is saying.

So either Mullen needs to change his offense to fit Trask and find other ways to run the ball or he’s gonna have to go to Jones. That’s on him.

Agreed.

 

[instaGATOR]

No one is stopping you from having an opinion, but at least in my case your misrepresented my position. The issue for me isn’t with Trask, its with Mullen. If he adjusts his offense and goes pass first then yea in theory we’re probably better off. But nothing in Mullen’s history shows that. Even if you look back to last year the offense took off once Franks became a rushing threat. Trask is athletic enough to run for a few yards here and there but he’s not somebody defenses have to respect on read options, that’s all anybody is saying.

So either Mullen needs to change his offense to fit Trask and find other ways to run the ball or he’s gonna have to go to Jones. That’s on him.

Trask did an excellent job on a run option pitch to Perine for a TD.

Then Trask did an excellent job on a QB draw for the go ahead TD.

According to their bio's, Franks 6-6 238 -- Trask 6-5 239, both with a 4.7/40
Neither are 4.5/40's like EJ, but neither are 6-2 199 WR size guys trying to play QB.
Plus both Franks and Trask are better passers than EJ is currently.
Trouble running behind the OL doesn't look good for EJ style football to me...

 

[Dannygator1989]

Trask did an excellent job on a run option pitch to Perine for a TD.

Then Trask did an excellent job on a QB draw for the go ahead TD.

According to their bio's, Franks 6-6 238 -- Trask 6-5 239, both with a 4.7/40
Neither are 4.5/40's like EJ, but neither are 6-2 199 WR size guys trying to play QB.
Plus both Franks and Trask are better passers than EJ is currently.
Trouble running behind the OL doesn't look good for EJ style football to me...

No one is arguing that Trask didn't look good.

But arguing that he is the type of Mobile QB for Mullen's spread option offense, based off of a very limited film, is asinine.

 

[oozie7]

Mullen seems confused. Maybe with this under center prostyle bs we’ve been running he should have started Trask from the beginning. Otherwise I don’t know why he thought using Franks that way was going to be successful. It’s like he looked at the last 4 games last year and said nah that worked too well let me try something else. I swear if I see Perine get another dive hand off from under center I’m breaking some shit.

 

[instaGATOR]

No one is arguing that Trask didn't look good.

But arguing that he is the type of Mobile QB for Mullen's spread option offense, based off of a very limited film, is asinine.

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Dannygator1989]

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

See, the fact that that is your response is what makes you a joke.

 

[instaGATOR]

See, the fact that that is your response is what makes you a joke.

While you remain exactly what you've always been...

Pitiful little attention beggar, kinda sad really, but here ya go,,, yet again.
Here to foul up yet another thread with his always village idiot smelly crap.
BothTotally Clueless and Boring is any ugly combination.

Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is...

There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

 

[fsumc]

Watch a replay of yalls game. What’s keeping Mullen from playing both QBs? Trask had a couple nice short yardage runs inside the five yard line. But that hardly speaks to him being as athletic as Franks. Franks can scoot especially for his size. But if Emory has the wheels and arm talent I would think he could rotate them in. I guess that’s delicate to mess with rhythm but if done properly it could give defenses fits.

Also, noticed on the two point conversion that LB for UK looked like he was trying to injure Trask. Trask got up pretty heated. Any news on dirty play?

 

[Dannygator1989]

Watch a replay of yalls game. What’s keeping Mullen from playing both QBs? Trask had a couple nice short yardage runs inside the five yard line. But that hardly speaks to him being as athletic as Franks. Franks can scoot especially for his size. But if Emory has the wheels and arm talent I would think he could rotate them in. I guess that’s delicate to mess with rhythm but if done properly it could give defenses fits.

Also, noticed on the two point conversion that LB for UK looked like he was trying to injure Trask. Trask got up pretty heated. Any news on dirty play?

Mullen wanted to use both but Trask had the hot hand and didn't want to change it up. I think going forward we'll likely see packages and series for Emory.

 

[gatorbuilderorlando]

If Trask continues to play well he'll get 85% of snaps...I do think Jones will get in. Jones could get consistently worked in. We have 2 scholly QBs so they need to share the load a bit to reduce risk imo - anyhow just shooting from the hip.

 

[Dannygator1989]

If Trask continues to play well he'll get 85% of snaps...I do think Jones will get in. Jones could get consistently worked in. We have 2 scholly QBs so they need to share the load a bit to reduce risk imo - anyhow just shooting from the hip.

I think Mullen will go with the hot hand, start Trask of course but see how it goes. Use Emory as a change up, situationally, and if the looks Emory gets are impressive, I think we'll see more and more of him.

 

[bradleygator]

I disagree that Trask runs worse than Franks, particularly for what Mullen wants to do. Franks is probably twice as fast straight line, but Trask keeps his head when he’s moving, so he makes plays that Franks can’t. Franks doesn’t make that option pitch in a million years. Mullen barely runs option with Franks, probably because he knows Franks would fumble about half the time. I also don’t think Franks would have scored on that run. I think Trask will open up more of the rpo stuff and the option game and will help the run game.

 

[oozie7]

If you rewatch that pitch, it wasn't well executed. And that's not taking anything away from Trask who made a play on the go but it was awkwardly executed and there was no feel for the defender or timing on the pitch. He was getting tackled, saw Perine across his face, and pitched it back but I guarantee that wasn't how it was drawn up.

I also disagree about Franks not being able to make that 4 yard run. He's already had plenty like that. Last year at Tennessee, UGA, South Carolina (multiple times), Michigan, and then the go ahead score this year against Miami just off the top of my head. Franks runs fine when he wants to and has power to go through defenders. He didn't run more last year because one we had a productive ground game and didn't have to and two Mullen limited his carries to protect him given what was behind him.

 

[instaGATOR]

If Trask continues to play well he'll get 85% of snaps...I do think Jones will get in. Jones could get consistently worked in. We have 2 scholly QBs so they need to share the load a bit to reduce risk imo - anyhow just shooting from the hip.

I find it amusing that this kind of logic didn't ever come up when Franks was getting 98% of the snaps in the games. And Dan claiming that all 3 were starters was/is total BS.

I'd be okay with Dan playing both KT & EJ, if needed and IF it works.
I was when Franks was the starter (never happened) and so I'd still be fine with the principle now that he's not. But please, stop the flip-flop, both sides of the mouth BS....

 

[instaGATOR]

If you rewatch that pitch, it wasn't well executed. And that's not taking anything away from Trask who made a play on the go but it was awkwardly executed and there was no feel for the defender or timing on the pitch. He was getting tackled, saw Perine across his face, and pitched it back but I guarantee that wasn't how it was drawn up.

I also disagree about Franks not being able to make that 4 yard run. He's already had plenty like that. Last year at Tennessee, UGA, South Carolina (multiple times), Michigan, and then the go ahead score this year against Miami just off the top of my head. Franks runs fine when he wants to and has power to go through defenders. He didn't run more last year because one we had a productive ground game and didn't have to and two Mullen limited his carries to protect him given what was behind him.

Crappy pitch and do it too soon and you get a M.Davis fumble vs Miami. Great timing....
Notice that Trask drew the defenders first so that Perine went into the end zone untouched It was a clean pitch, right to Perine for an easy catch in stride.

I think that even me or oozie could have made that wide open to the end zone 4 yard run.... However, Franks power to go through a defender was sadly not evident on the last run he attempted.

As to how much he ran last year compared to this year....
.
2019 - Gross Yds, not Net Yds.
#1 Perine 34 runs, 124 Yds
#2 Franks with 21 runs. 85 Yds
21/2.5 = 8.4 runs/game ave.

2018 - Gross Yds, not Net Yds.
#1 Perine 134 runs, 834 yds
#2 Scarlett 131 runs, 776 yds
#3 Franks 110 runs 501 yds
110/13 = 8.5 runs/game ave.

And given what was behind him last year???
It was exactly the same that was behind him this year, Trask and Jones.
(Plus Sproles and Toney if needed)

 

[oozie7]

Crappy pitch and do it too soon and you get a M.Davis fumble vs Miami. Great timing....
Notice that Trask drew the defenders first so that Perine went into the end zone untouched It was a clean pitch, right to Perine for an easy catch in stride.

I think that even me or oozie could have made that wide open to the end zone 4 yard run.... However, Franks power to go through a defender was sadly not evident on the last run he attempted.

As to how much he ran last year compared to this year....
.
2019 - Gross Yds, not Net Yds.
#1 Perine 34 runs, 124 Yds
#2 Franks with 21 runs. 85 Yds
21/2.5 = 8.4 runs/game ave.

2018 - Gross Yds, not Net Yds.
#1 Perine 134 runs, 834 yds
#2 Scarlett 131 runs, 776 yds
#3 Franks 110 runs 501 yds
110/13 = 8.5 runs/game ave.

And given what was behind him last year???
It was exactly the same that was behind him this year, Trask and Jones.
(Plus Sproles and Toney if needed)

I can't believe you're still attempting to blame Davis' fumble against Miami on Franks when the ball hit him in both hands, he simply dropped it. It's clear as day and Mullen stated as much after the game.

And about Franks running...those are Mullen's words, they didn't run Franks as much early on because they didn't trust what was behind him. Franks running attempts last year by game was: 5, 11, 7, 9, 6, 6, 11, 8, 3, 16, 2 (played a quarter and a half), 12, 14. Through the first 9 games an average of 7 attempts per game, over the last 4 when the offense exploded 11 attempts per game, and that's including the game against Idaho where he played a quarter and a half and ran twice or that number would be even higher. Mullen's offenses demand a big run threat at QB to be really good, always has unless he changes it.

 

[instaGATOR]

I can't believe you're still attempting to blame Davis' fumble against Miami on Franks when the ball hit him in both hands, he simply dropped it. It's clear as day and Mullen stated as much after the game.

And about Franks running...those are Mullen's words, they didn't run Franks as much early on because they didn't trust what was behind him. Franks running attempts last year by game was: 5, 11, 7, 9, 6, 6, 11, 8, 3, 16, 2 (played a quarter and a half), 12, 14. Through the first 9 games an average of 7 attempts per game, over the last 4 when the offense exploded 11 attempts per game, and that's including the game against Idaho where he played a quarter and a half and ran twice or that number would be even higher. Mullen's offenses demand a big run threat at QB to be really good, always has unless he changes it.

Why not, you think that Trask's pitch to Perine for a TD was 'not well executed.'

So Dan's wrong and you're just his parrot, gotcha...

This is like Dan claiming that all 3 QB's are starters, but only one plays in the games?
When you agree, it's Dan's words. When you don't agree, it's just coach-speak...

I'm still waiting for you to prove that Trask can't run the ball as effectively as Franks.
Franks -- 2019 - 4.0 ypc ----- 2018 4.6 ypc --- 4 x 8 is around 30-35 yds/gm BIG...
And that's the 'Gross' ypc, without averaging in all of the lost yards.

 

[oozie7]

You're arguing just to argue. You're so dug in you seem to think anything that isn't Trask is the best ever is some kind of personal attack on him. And I've never accused Mullen of any coachspeak, that's almost entirely you who has accused Mullen of playing favorites, accused him of lying (directly or indirectly), and now you're claiming he's wrong about something obvious to anybody who can see straight. So basically only when you agree with Mullen do you care about his opinion, all you did was accurately describe yourself.

And you do realize those rushing averages include sacks which are counted as rushing attempts correct? This is pointless. Great talk.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Insta, oozie isn't the one against Trask. You need to focus that attention towards Fevered Brain. He is the one who spent countless posts talking how horrible Franks was but flips it to we will lose 3 to 4 more games with Franks being injured.

 

[instaGATOR]

You're arguing just to argue. You're so dug in you seem to think anything that isn't Trask is the best ever is some kind of personal attack on him. And I've never accused Mullen of any coachspeak, that's almost entirely you who has accused Mullen of playing favorites, accused him of lying (directly or indirectly), and now you're claiming he's wrong about something obvious to anybody who can see straight. So basically only when you agree with Mullen do you care about his opinion, all you did was accurately describe yourself.

And you do realize those rushing averages include sacks which are counted as rushing attempts correct? This is pointless. Great talk.

Pot / Kettle on the dug-in bit and arguing to aruge...
I can claim 'never did' just as easily and authoritatively as you can...

Are you too stupid to understand the difference between Groos Yds and Net Yds???
I used the Gross Yds to give Franks a break on his running for 2.9 ypc with the LOST yds.

But hey ooozzzzieeeeee' I'm still having educational fun with this discussion, are you?

 

[LizardGrad89]

Watch a replay of yalls game. What’s keeping Mullen from playing both QBs? Trask had a couple nice short yardage runs inside the five yard line. But that hardly speaks to him being as athletic as Franks. Franks can scoot especially for his size. But if Emory has the wheels and arm talent I would think he could rotate them in. I guess that’s delicate to mess with rhythm but if done properly it could give defenses fits.

Also, noticed on the two point conversion that LB for UK looked like he was trying to injure Trask. Trask got up pretty heated. Any news on dirty play?

We've all been caught at it. Hate it, can't cast stones.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Watch a replay of yalls game. What’s keeping Mullen from playing both QBs? Trask had a couple nice short yardage runs inside the five yard line. But that hardly speaks to him being as athletic as Franks. Franks can scoot especially for his size. But if Emory has the wheels and arm talent I would think he could rotate them in. I guess that’s delicate to mess with rhythm but if done properly it could give defenses fits.

Also, noticed on the two point conversion that LB for UK looked like he was trying to injure Trask. Trask got up pretty heated. Any news on dirty play?

In the UK game we were down a long way and had to throw to get back in it. Trask was the smart move. Best move he made all day, by far. Doesn't mean Jones is out if it though.