Added another recruit tonight
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Yep - put us at 16th overall on the composite. Honestly even getting to 20th overall with ESD and a new coach was about a dream. We're playing with house money now.
The bump class needs to be elite and I like everything Billy is doing so far.
The bump class needs to be elite and I like everything Billy is doing so far.
Passed the Holes.
Don’t Cum must be suicidal since he cannot explain to his minions on Whorechant how Mikey Norvil with two full years on the ‘22 class was outrecruited by a guy that didn’t even have two full months to do the same.
I’m sure he will blame Deion and point to the no-carb eating health nut as the next Kendall Briles 2.0.
Arlis Boardingham announces Florida as college choice
Tight end Arlis Boardingham, the City Section player of the year for Lake Balboa Birmingham, announced Wednesday that he will play at Florida.
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Florida adds late 2022 commitment from California ATH
Florida adds another commitment to its 2022 class.
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I like this prospect. He’s a very good athlete. On to the 2023 class where it should hopefully be an elite class.
will be interesting to watch
personally I am interested to see if he can recruit any top tier WR with this offense. May be a challenge for UF for the first time in quite some time
Nice finishing touch to the transition class. If he can coach anything like he recruits we will be fine.
its going to be a lot like Kirby. We will have to hit a few consecutive great classes and just out talent people.
this isn’t going to be like a Spurrier where we out scheme people. We will just need to line up, be more talented and physical and make fewer mistakes
I swear to god....every time.
Why? Why is everything so negative?
Can't even see how anything plays out because Mike Leach is running the offense so his Bama ties means that we're going to run the wishbone.
The guy can obviously coach. Just look at his resume. Some will sat yes but it was the sunbelt conference. Maybe, but he was playing with sunbelt level athletes. He will have better players, coaches, resources and facilities. Let’s see what the man can do.
Danny, he has said point-blank he is NOT changing his offense. Period.
It is not innovative. It does not utilize speed.
kirby just won a national title. Its not a knock. But he has made it very clear that will be the offense.
Don’t get all bent out of shape. This guy isn’t going to turnninto Spurrier, Reilly or Day.
We have to ride what he does well and hope for the best.
why do people get so bent out of shape when he has literally made these statements
Well we have his ULL players and coaches here now so, I am certainly not making that argument.
he has said his ULL offense is what we will run. Its primarily run heavy, twelve personnel. Damn people, listen once in a while. Kirby just won a title and that is the route we are taking.
Excellent pick up in Boardingham. The next 2 years will tell if he can recruit at the level needed to get back into SEC title contention. I am very impressed with what Napier did in the short time he's been at UF. And he's made inroads at schools where prior Gator coaches have struck out repeatedly - Bolles & IMG as examples. But can he actually sign multiple 5 star players? We all thought Muschamp was the guy. Same with Mullen. They couldn't get it done. We NEED Billy Napier to be THAT guy. C'mon man!
Well if he is not that guy it won’t be for lack of effort.
We better hope he's "that guy", because if he's not we become UT 2
Well at least we don’t try to destroy our biggest rival with lies (not defending Bama). but UT is the lowest. I know you’re referring to the coaching carousel.
I don't care what he runs. But you do.
You start off with how it's just Mac's offense, it's old school Bama, it'll be hard to get good receivers here, etc.
First of all, Mac's offensive scheme wasn't bad. It was horribly executed. One reason being that Muschamp's lack of O-Line recruiting made it difficult to run, the QBs were absolute trash (minus the one he ran off) and personally I don't think Mac was good at what he was doing.
I think we could wait and see how things look before we go bemoaning it. You're almost like Fever and recruiting sometimes.
I just can't wait to see the spring game
Thats what I am saying, it is old school Bama /Mac offense. And like you said, the system itself can work if properly built. And I think its very obvious that BN is laser focused on elite RB, OL and a defense. And that is what makes that system work.
Its not a mystery to see “what it will look like”, we know, he has made it clear.
and yes, clearly Billy knows how to run this offense effectively, which, like you said, we aren’t sure Mac did.
It is wait and see. I am really not disagreeing with anything you have said. And though I am not convinced that its the best offense for here, like Paco said, we all better hope it works because we don’t want to become UT.
If he doesn't get a top 5 class and at least win the SECe next year, then the coaching search is on for his firing and replacement in year 3.... 🙄
How tough is playing football in the SEC anyway?
How about 10 teams in the 247 Top 25, with 4 more in the next 7.
All 14 SEC teams are in the Top 32, with the Top 3 spots locked up.
Recruit Class 247 Rankings:
1. aTm
2. UA
3. UGly
12. LSU
13. UK
14. Mizz
16. UF (#19 with 2 stars at QB-TE-K per Rivals)
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17. TN
19. AU
24. Miss
26. SCa
27. MsSt
28 Ark
32. VU
Holy She-ite Scat-man....
How tough is playing football in the SEC anyway?
How about 10 teams in the 247 Top 25, with 4 more in the next 7.
All 14 SEC teams are in the Top 32, with the Top 3 spots locked up.
Recruit Class 247 Rankings:
1. aTm
2. UA
3. UGly
12. LSU
13. UK
14. Mizz
16. UF (#19 with 2 stars at QB-TE-K per Rivals)
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17. TN
19. AU
24. Miss
26. SCa
27. MsSt
28 Ark
32. VU
Holy She-ite Scat-man....
Agreed, Spurrier had some great running teams. Fred Taylor, Rhett, Faison.
Its near impossible to get good wide receivers using this scheme.
Like Julio Jones and Amari Cooper, those guys would never play in that scheme.
Well, in fairness, Julio said after leaving he wouldn’t have done it again because he was under utilized.
but no need to keep in this pissing match with you. Either he will recruit like Uga and it will work or we can do it all over again soon.
If anything - Kirby has proven you can have a terrible offense for WRs, not develop any of them and still recruit top receivers lol. I'm sure on the margin a guy here/there...the scheme will be the deciding factor, most mostly recruiters recruit.
Either Napier is a perenial top 5 recruiter - or a top 7-8 recruiter with an elite QB...or he won't make it. I really think we know this time next what his trajectory is.
Michi,
Having BN become the next Woody Hayes - 3 yards & a cloud of dust - does nothing for me !
Perhaps BN will punt on 3rd down as well.
IMO, too much speed on defense in the SEC; any DC with a brain & great athletes - as any of the top 3 teams we play in our schedule will have - will stack the box & limit the running game.
Even with an expanded field, I don't see any CFP berths with an offense like what you describe.
Julio Jones was underutilized??? Huh? He had 179 receptions in 3 years at Bama. That seems like a lot to me.
Yes Napier does run the ball more than pass. That is just his philosophy. There is nothing wrong with the scheme. You need good coaching and then good players to execute it. He has been successful and has won a lot of games which is also probably why they run it a little more than pass. However, In his 4 years at ULL he has had some good offenses.
In 2018 they were 13th in the country in yards per play. In 2019 they were 6th in the country in yards per play. In 2020 they were 32nd and in 2021 they were 54th. The worst offensive team he had was this past year yet the best team he has had in 4 years was his 2021 team which tells me his teams success/record isn’t just predicated on how good the offense is.
In 2018 they were 13th in the country in yards per play. In 2019 they were 6th in the country in yards per play. In 2020 they were 32nd and in 2021 they were 54th. The worst offensive team he had was this past year yet the best team he has had in 4 years was his 2021 team which tells me his teams success/record isn’t just predicated on how good the offense is.
well he doesn’t run more “because he won” because I believe his teams play significantly more games decided by 7 points or less than most (you can check that but I believe it to be true)
And yes, what you said is exactly what I said, BN success will be determined by wether he can create a roster more talented than his opponents.
which is a fine approach since we just failed under a guy who recruited poorly and relied n scheme
All I have said is anyone who thinks we are coming out with some high powered offense are wrong. The scheme is different but the philosophy is basically Kirby. Take it or leave it, like it or don’t, but it is what it is. It will work or it won’t.
we have two OL coaches, all I am saying is anyone who is expecting something explosive and innovative, that is not where we are headed.
Isn’t that how it usually works in college football? Usually the teams that recruit the best are the ones in the college football playoffs or winning the national title. The last team to win a national title that didn’t have some top 5 recruiting classes was Auburn in 2010 & that was because they had Cam Newton. It isn’t like Gene Chizik was out scheming teams, etc.
Regardless it isn’t like he’s had bad offenses. In fact 2 years his offenses were very good.
my only two points are:
1. For this type of offense it will take a few cycles of successful recruiting to be effective, especially after Mullen
2. People saying “we don’t know until we see it”. No! It has been made very clear exactly what we are running, run heavy, 12 personnel, with TE recruited to block.
For some reason there are still people thinking we are going to be running an up-tempo offense utilizing speed in space. We are not, he doesn’t use tempo, and he values power over speed. It IS Mac’s scheme but Billy will (hopefully) recruit the personnel to actually do it effectively
now again, we go back to the issue for everyone post SOS. If you are going to do it this way you have to win. Winning cures all. But in the house that Spurrier built, a methodical offense better go 11-1 or 10-2. Because if you are in year 3 going 8-4 and running out the clock you will be in the unemployment line
Who thinks we are going to be running an up-tempo offense? And who says he values power over speed? Look I know you aren’t a fan of his offense and that is fine….but don’t just make things up either to try and fit your narrative. I have some concerns with his some aspects of his offense but I’ve never seen anybody on this board say he’s going to run an up tempo offense. And where do you think he values power over speed? I haven’t seen or heard him say that. How would you know he values power over speed? Because of a scheme? Because he runs more than passes? Because he doesn’t recruit speed? Where are you coming up with this?
Elijah Mitchell RB for the 49ers played for Napier at Louisiana and ran a 4.35 forty at the NFL combine. What about those WRs he recruited at Bama? They didn’t have any speed? Let’s not go over the top here. Just stick to you don’t like his offense.
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The boosters will mostly determine our long term fate now that facilities are upgraded and we have more staff. No team will be cracking the top 5 in getting top 150 recruits without a big NIL push. A 12 team playoff would assure 10-2 in the SEC gets you in though.
Taking a little closer look at Billy's 2021 ULL Offense:
ULL 2021 Rushing: 565 for 2,715 yds, 4.8 YPC, 34 TD's
BN had 3 RB's with 100+ carries each, not just one getting all the love.
YD's - Chris Smith 153 for 855 Yds, 5.6 ypc, 8 TD's
TD's - Montrell Johnson 162 for 838 Yds, 5.2 ypc, 12 TD's
YPC - Emani Bailey 102 for 642 Yds, 6.3 ypc, 8 TD's
Plus QB Levi Lewis 100 for 343 Yds, 3.4 ypc, 5 TD's (#4 carries, not #1)
And 4 more that combined for just 24 carries.
That's working your primary RB committee,,, and preparing for the future.
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ULL Passing: 246 of 405 60.7% for 3,060 yds, 22 TD's, 4 Ints.
BN passing offense had:
19 players with receptions,
5 with 20+ catches,
6 more with 10+ catches, and
10 of those had a TD catch.
Positions with receptions: 11 WR's, 4 TE's, 4 RB's.
Most Receptions: - WR Peter LeBlac 37 for 417 Yds, 11.3 Yd/Rec, 1 TD
Most Yards: - WR Michael Jefferson 18 for 481 Yds, 26.7 Yd/Rec, 4 TD
Most TD's: - WR Kyren Lacy 22 for 304 Yds, 13.8 Yd/Rec, 6 TD's
~~ If I was a WR, I'd want to play in that offense, knowing that if I work hard and show skills, that I'll get the reward of some playing time.
Top Rec TE - Neal Johnson 22 for 287 Yds, 13.0 Yd/Rec, 1 TD
Top Rec RB - Emani Bailey 15 for 153 Yds, 10.2 Yd/Rec, 0 TD
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Why would anyone believe that BN doesn't go with his passing or running in each game, depending on what the opposing defense is trying to do???
IF you can do both successfully (which he obviously can), then how you use them in each game varies.
IMO, the current 2022 projected Gator roster has both the RB's and the receivers to focus on either the run or pass in games. Whatever works on a given day.
ULL 2021 Rushing: 565 for 2,715 yds, 4.8 YPC, 34 TD's
BN had 3 RB's with 100+ carries each, not just one getting all the love.
YD's - Chris Smith 153 for 855 Yds, 5.6 ypc, 8 TD's
TD's - Montrell Johnson 162 for 838 Yds, 5.2 ypc, 12 TD's
YPC - Emani Bailey 102 for 642 Yds, 6.3 ypc, 8 TD's
Plus QB Levi Lewis 100 for 343 Yds, 3.4 ypc, 5 TD's (#4 carries, not #1)
And 4 more that combined for just 24 carries.
That's working your primary RB committee,,, and preparing for the future.
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ULL Passing: 246 of 405 60.7% for 3,060 yds, 22 TD's, 4 Ints.
BN passing offense had:
19 players with receptions,
5 with 20+ catches,
6 more with 10+ catches, and
10 of those had a TD catch.
Positions with receptions: 11 WR's, 4 TE's, 4 RB's.
Most Receptions: - WR Peter LeBlac 37 for 417 Yds, 11.3 Yd/Rec, 1 TD
Most Yards: - WR Michael Jefferson 18 for 481 Yds, 26.7 Yd/Rec, 4 TD
Most TD's: - WR Kyren Lacy 22 for 304 Yds, 13.8 Yd/Rec, 6 TD's
~~ If I was a WR, I'd want to play in that offense, knowing that if I work hard and show skills, that I'll get the reward of some playing time.
Top Rec TE - Neal Johnson 22 for 287 Yds, 13.0 Yd/Rec, 1 TD
Top Rec RB - Emani Bailey 15 for 153 Yds, 10.2 Yd/Rec, 0 TD
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Why would anyone believe that BN doesn't go with his passing or running in each game, depending on what the opposing defense is trying to do???
IF you can do both successfully (which he obviously can), then how you use them in each game varies.
IMO, the current 2022 projected Gator roster has both the RB's and the receivers to focus on either the run or pass in games. Whatever works on a given day.
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Breaking down the film of new Florida Gators tight end Arlis Boardingham.
TE Artis Boardingham 6-4 220 is a versatile prospect that has the ability to play multiple positions on either side of the ball, but it looks like he will be sliding in at tight end to be coached by William Peagler.
~ There's a Hudl link to Highlights in the story.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/florida-gators-scouting-report-arlis-boardingham-2022
TE Artis Boardingham 6-4 220 is a versatile prospect that has the ability to play multiple positions on either side of the ball, but it looks like he will be sliding in at tight end to be coached by William Peagler.
~ There's a Hudl link to Highlights in the story.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/florida-gators-scouting-report-arlis-boardingham-2022
Napier had good offenses at ULL. His last year was his worst, but it wasn't horrible by any stretch. So far I like how he saved the class and already has in conversation with some top 2023 targets. He's walking into a decent situation talent wise. Remember these are the same kids that were one missed xp from possible OT with Bama.
Why does it matter if he runs more than he passes? Only recruits it might effect are the WRs and it would effect RBs in a positive way. It appears to me that his offenses are pretty balanced.
