Any word on Tebow? In town .. working out with some of the players? coaches? Seems like Burton and Cooper could help?
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Why should he switch positions? It's not like he hasn't been successful. He's started something like 15 games in his career, that's not even a full season's worth of games. When he played extensively, he won. His second to last start he threw for 300+ on the NFL's #1 defense. Does he have a lot to work on ? Hell yea. But so does every young QB in the NFL. For some reason, everyone speeds up his timetable for being good while other young QB's hang around for years without producing and nobody asks them to change positions.
Just asking the question because it seems like he's not been successful in the NFL (at least as successful as many had expected/hoped) at that position, but could very likely be extremely successful at other positions. Look at Braxton Miller at OSU (given that's college).
Not hating on Tebow, just curious what the general thought was on the topic of position moving. I honestly believe he could/should be a long-time presence in the NFL.
I know this has been discussed before, but (from the outside looking in) why doesn't Tim convert to H-back or TE? There is no arguing he is, in fact, a tough-as-nails athlete with the heart of a winner. Wouldn't he thrive at those positions or am I missing something? Why is he so hell-bent on being a QB? Is it possible for him to have changed his playing mechanics enough to make it in the NFL?
I know this has been discussed before, but (from the outside looking in) why doesn't Tim convert to H-back or TE? There is no arguing he is, in fact, a tough-as-nails athlete with the heart of a winner. Wouldn't he thrive at those positions or am I missing something? Why is he so hell-bent on being a QB? Is it possible for him to have changed his playing mechanics enough to make it in the NFL?
I guess success is all relative too. IMO Tebow could unquestionably be a backup or 3rd string guy on a team. He hasn't been because IMO teams don't want to deal with the media that follows him, which big picture is BS. I mean scrubs like Charlie Batch hung around for a decade as backups. I mean c'mon.
This is the only reason he hasn't been in the league. There isn't and hasn't been 90 QBs in the league better than him. It's the media circus that has kept him out of the league. Teams don't want to deal with it. It's as simple as that.I guess success is all relative too. IMO Tebow could unquestionably be a backup or 3rd string guy on a team. He hasn't been because IMO teams don't want to deal with the media that follows him, which big picture is BS. I mean scrubs like Charlie Batch hung around for a decade as backups. I mean c'mon.
Not successful as an NFL QB???? I'm calling BS on that.
Not employed is not the same thing as not successful.
In his first 16 NFL starts he was way better than Peyton or St John El' Dimway.
He is the ONLY Heisman QB in the last 25 years that's also won an NFL Playoff game.
In 2 years, the Broncos with a 7-8 year NFL Vet QB (Orton) went 4-14.
In those same 2 years, with dissed-on and ignored Tebow they went 9-7 with a Playoff win.
That win was against the NFL's #1 Defense Steelers.
Tebow set Bronco Team Records, and NFL Playoff Passing Records in the Playoffs.
With that weak Bronco team, Tebow won an NFL playoff game in his 15th split season NFL start.
He had no 'off-season team training' between his first 2 seasons because of the player strike.
After adding 30+ new players, it took Peyton 33 games as a Bronco QB to get his first Playoff win.
The only position change for Tim will be back to broadcasting, IF he doesn't keep a job as an NFL QB.
I will defer to the NFL Players themselves on the quality of Tebow as an NFL QB.
THEY voted him to THEIR Top 100 Players of 2011, so go argue with them.
Then come back here and tell us all about Brady 'Da-Mighty' Quinn and Jimmy 'Da-Pickle' Clausen, the famous neutered lame QB's. I wouldn't trade Tebow for BOTH of those nuttless losers on their best day....
First 16 NFL starts comparisons are available, but then that was not what you wanted to address, is it? (rhetorical)
Peyton set a new NFL rookie record for Ints with 28 while going 3-13.
El' Dimway threw 7 TD's to 14 Ints and a 54 QB Rating.
Clausen threw 3 TD's to 9 Ints before being benched for good.
After years as a do-nothing back-up, Quinn still sucks.
Let's see you how honesty. (impossible, as he doesn't have any)
Where was the Bronco defense ranked with Orton starting?
What was the RB's output with Orton as the starter?
Address El' Dim-way trading away their Top 2 WR's before starting Tebow, which included their ONLY Pro-Bowler on the offense, B.Lloyd.
You don't want honesty, you just want to start chit with me individually, as usual.
The only flaw with your reasoning in my opinion is that Tim has NEVER gotten the opportunity to be a backup or third string QB because of the media attention is too much for a back up. He IS and has been one of the top 90 QBs all along. The media lays off this time and bam, he is going to be in a team.
Add to all this that Chip Kelly is the man and there you have it. Exactly yhe reason I think Folley should have flown to Philly with an open seat on the plane and a blank check and not left until Chip was with him.
I wanted that too, never doubt it.
However, UF isn't Alabama or FSU or any other unabashedly "football school". There would have been a LOT LOT LOT of pushback on an 8 mil a year head coach. Frankly, I don't see him coming here for less. Could have taken 10.
Wrong thread maybe???
Wrong thread maybe???
It was God's plan that Kelly stay in the pros so that Tebow may smite his doubters and the unrighteous.
Tebow also led the league in fumbles during his time at quarterback, to go along with 46% completion rate. You left that out of your amazing insight.
Right now he is 4th string and is fighting just to make the team. He was graded out with a C grade. You left that out as well.
"On Friday, the Eagles announced its first unofficial depth chart and Tebow was indeed listed at quarterback -- behind Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez and Matt Barkley.".